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Acquied1961

USA
38 Posts
Posted - May 29 2012 :  6:53:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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This is my gold standard! The dash from the GMBH replica
Note the 3 LEDs in the speedomter. Also all of the indicator lights are the same size which looks better then the original. Don't you think the high beam indicator should be blue? The hole in the dash is different as well.

Apparently working with a bigger budget than me. The steering wheel sells for about $2,000. The steering wheel center cap for ~$600. You can use the 190SL cap which sells for ~$250 but it doesn't have a chrom rim. The guilloche plate is ~$3,000 ouch!!


great LED lights you got there with your car.


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davicho862

Argentina
38 Posts
Posted - July 09 2012 :  4:01:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love this car. Anybody could tell me, which one has the exaclt models, with the pieces?

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - July 30 2012 :  2:52:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The mold that Gil Lonecker had came off an original 300SL. The mold that Herman Quint had came from a replica out of Gil's mold (I believe) so it is accurate as well (2nd gen). The mold Crazyone has is from one of Hermans (3rd gen). The replica that Speedway had was definately altered from original to accommodate different glass and noticeably incorrect at the roofline and doors. I guess it is all a moot point as none of these guys are in buisness any more. Not sure where you could get a body these days. Especially as Mercedes has threatened to crush any replicas their lawyers can get their hands on.
No one has "the correct pieces". That has been a major sticking point all along. There is a patchwork of different venders you can use and probably find 50-60% of what you need. Price can be a real issue though. I think I finally have about 98% of all the parts. The side glass and rear bumper are two hard to find items. The window hinges and latches are unobtainable BUT most people give up and figure out some alternative. Same for the vent at the windshield base.

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - August 17 2012 :  4:04:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Dan asked me to post a picture of his Gullwing.Wel done Dan!

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - August 17 2012 :  4:16:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Greg.Did you get all 4 pic.? If so could you post the one w/side shot

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - August 17 2012 :  4:21:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe someone can walk me thru on how to post a pic on the forum.My email is danderson@toast.net Thanks

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - August 18 2012 :  6:26:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

another picture of Dan's car

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - August 18 2012 :  6:30:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

nice shot!

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - August 20 2012 :  09:38:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Greg for posting pic.I'll try photobucket.and see if i can do it myself

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 15 2012 :  3:48:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got a copy of a letter from Tom Wolk from Eastern Rod and Custom. They bought Gil Lonergan's mold. Tom confirmed that they are in production and will continue to make bodies. They have chosen to improve the process by using hand layup E-glass instead of the chop gun process that Gil used. A welcomed improvement.

On a similar note is that I have been able to obtain the last of the original window latch/hinge parts. I have a local foundry which says they will help me cast these pieces.

At this point I have the following parts that I can reproduce; door hinges, vent hinge upper, vent hinge lower, vent latch, side window latch, front grill star, side Mercedes logo, dash 300SL logo, trunk 300SL logo, trunk star. I still need to find an original front air intake grill. I think I once found one for sale but the price was more than I could afford.

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krazeyone

USA
101 Posts
Posted - September 20 2012 :  4:26:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not that it's a big deal, but just to clarify, I don't know Gill, or how he got his molds. I do know that Herman had his molds made from a real Gullwing that was shipped to Germany for restoration, picked up at the New York harbor, dissassembled for mold making, than reassembled. Now if I'm not mistaken the car resides in a meuseum in Southern California.


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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 20 2012 :  10:03:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gil Lonecker's mold was pulled off an original car that was disassembled in South Dakota for restoration. I know of no one who
thinks that it is anything but spot on. The quality of his lay-ups well that's another thing.
No doubt Herman's mold is dead on as well. Where is that mold these day? Do the Mazza brothers still have it? Are they making and selling bodies yet? I think they still have their web site up. Does anyone know?

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - September 21 2012 :  08:04:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Mazza bros. molds are at advance Composite Products in Harrisburg,PA.When they got the molds they were to flimsy to wrk with so they redid them.They had a body their and it looked real good.they also made the doors better.I guess they owe quit a bit of monies to them asfar as i knowthat's is why the molds are still there.Maybe the bros.can get on the forum and get us up to speed as to what they are doing.They seemed like a couple of good people.

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Keystone1961


37 Posts
Posted - October 07 2012 :  12:34:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are some very impressive replicas on this forum! Hi "gullwing", I have some questions about the parts you mentioned. Can you please contact me at keystone1961@gmail.com? I tried to email you but your kitcar profile seems to be old. Thanks.

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CarbonGullwing


25 Posts
Posted - December 08 2012 :  11:20:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,

I recently made a Carbon Fiber Gullwing body and seeing if there was any interest in this at all for a full on custom car and not a replica ( as making it out of carbon then painting over it would be pointless and not cost effective :P )

I have attached a photo so you can see what it looks like. Any questions let me know. thanks for your time.

-sorry for the link but I'm new at posting pictures and all that

http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHcm5-in52ylqTT0-La2-PT45HV480


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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - December 09 2012 :  10:29:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, thats quite a project! It looks great. What did you use for a mold? Was it taken from an original or recreated otherwise?Cost of building a mold has got to be huge. I assume your intent is to produce some more bodies. Carbon only? or glass as well.

Although I would absolutely love a carbon body I would be content with a hand layed E-glass fiber using epoxy resin. Instead of my chop gun polyester body. I would add though that the doors are a good place for carbon fiber. They absolutely need to be rigid. The front pillar is a little thin. Then when the door is done lightness is a virtue. One issue is the weight limit of the strut. With the original door struts it was only a matter of putting in a stronger spring. With a more modern gas strut replacement there is a weight limit. At least one builder was forced to reject well build doors as they were too heavy. Another was forced to use lightweight plexiglass windows as the original glass with metal frames was too heavy for any available gas shocks.

Greg

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CarbonGullwing


25 Posts
Posted - December 11 2012 :  5:13:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not 100% on the mold process as I was hired after the mold was already made. To me and my experience, the mold seems to be off a replica ( cuz who would want to try to make a mold off a million dollar car ) Also, we are trying to see what kind of market is out there and what others would like, there are so many cool types of carbon out there they sky is the limit ( Different colors, types of weave, weave direction ect ect) I have interesting design for the weave now so it looks like its going fast without even moving. The only problem with carbon is it is hard to capture in a photo, you really have to be up and close to see what it looks like.

I have a few tricks of the trade to really stiffen up any part of the car that needs to be, and the joy of carbon as well is you can buy different thinkness and change the weave to do what you need to as well.

Speaking of doors, does anyone know of a place to get doors, bonnet (hood), and boot(trunk) for this car ? As I don't have these pieces for this project.

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - January 23 2013 :  09:14:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see the Mazza bros.have removed their web site

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davicho862

Argentina
38 Posts
Posted - March 06 2013 :  4:03:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CarbonGulling, can you upload the images again?, I canīt see. Thank you!

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - April 04 2013 :  4:14:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know if anyone on this forum cares but after almost 4 years of being in storage my kit is finally on its way. I just received word that it has cleared US customs and is on a ship. So in 2 months it will be in New Zealand. I am pretty sure that I can it left hand drive. The question though is do I want to. Ihave been trying to find a replacement steering rack for my Mustang II rack. I know they made a RHD Capri and these cars were built on the same chasis. The question is did they make a Capri with power steering (I have to have power steering). The next question is where do I get one? I already asked Flaming River and its a no go.

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - April 04 2013 :  4:20:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah, if carbon gullwing still needs a mold for his doors PM me.

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - August 11 2013 :  12:06:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the Gullwing successfully made it to New Zealand. It looked pretty pitiful when I picked it up. They broke the right ball joint. No problem. Easy fix.[URL=http://s73.photobucket.com/user/amcagreg/media/photo.jpg.html][/URL]
<a href="http://s73.photobucket.com/user/amcagreg/media/GullwingFrame004.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/amcagreg/GullwingFrame004.jpg" border="0" alt="Gullwing body lift photo GullwingFrame004.jpg"/></a>

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - August 14 2013 :  12:07:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a complicated procedure in New Zealand to get my car certified. The certifier wants me to take the body off the frame so he can inspect all of the welds. Also they are making me convert it to right hand drive. So, between that and modifications needed to fit the taller and wider hemi I am going to build a new frame. So far so good.
Anyo[URL=http://s73.photobucket.com/user/amcagreg/media/GullwingFrame009.jpg.html][/URL]ne interested in buying my previous frame PM me.

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 04 2013 :  02:39:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/amcagreg/th_IRSphoto018.jpg?t=1378287497

The rear IRS is coming along. First I need to mock up the mounting cage then I will weld it into frame. I should have used the Aluminum pumpkin for this it is a lot lighter but it is in the machine shop being rebuild. This iron diff is heavy!

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 06 2013 :  10:27:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I just got some of my parts from the foundry. This is the vent hinge. There are about 12parts done in bronze (not pot metal). I have a lot of polishing to do.

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 07 2013 :  06:25:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 07 2013 :  3:52:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/amcagreg/IRSphoto018.jpg

I have been having problems figuring out how to post pictures since Photobucket changed their format

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - September 19 2013 :  7:48:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/amcagreg/windowhinges006.jpg?t=1379645349

I got a few more pieces from the foundry today for the vent window and side window. There will be a bit of time buffing them up and drilling holes.

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dan2


54 Posts
Posted - February 14 2014 :  12:42:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just got thru taking the Muncie 4 spd.and putting in a Tremic T5 w/c out of a '89 Camaro

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gullwing

New Zealand
150 Posts
Posted - February 14 2014 :  4:37:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's great. Are you happier with the T-5? Is it a World Class?
I originally had a Ford 302 under my hood. I was looking for an inexpensive T-5 on E-bay and came upon a new T-45 for $400. Seems that a lot of Mustang owners ditched brand new 5 speeds when the T-56 six speed came out. I thought I had caught a real great deal until I found out that the T-45 had an integral bell housing and only mated to the modular Ford engine!

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