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quiller


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Posted - June 21 2002 :  07:36:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This message is for Brian.

Hi Brian,

I saw your project and I have a few questions. I have an interest in doing something similar, but for a C Type Jaguar. I’m assuming you got the video game that had the car you wanted to clone in it, and then put this data into your cad program. What was the game/data you used, and which version of AutoCad do you have? How did you get the data into your AutoCad application? Currently I own AutoCad LT 2002, which has no 3D capabilities, but I believe I can upgrade. You may contact me at quiller@attbi.com if you choose.

Thanks in advance, and great looking car.

Alan


artworkbybrian

Canada
39 Posts
Posted - June 21 2002 :  9:23:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Alan,

Yeah, you need the 3D capabilities from AutoCAD to render the car properly and you are also going to need 3D Studio Max, Lightwave or Soft Image to convert it to AutoCAD.

For the 3D model used in the video game I went directly to the source www.turbosquid.com from where the company got theirs. I believe they actually have the car that you are looking for. However, the prices have quadrupled since I made the pruchase. Meanwhile, I did make some changes.

The model they had was a VT hard top and I wanted to build a Roadster. Therefore I also bought several models of the roadster and a micrometer to measure off the differences. However, after a while, the car literally started teaching me how to build it and I needed to the use of the micrometer and the models less and less. Without going all Zen or anything like that, it is one of those wondeful things that happen if you are an experienced builder. More over even if you are not, you will be by the time you're done your project!

Anyway, once I recieved the 3D model from Turbosquid and transformed it into an AutoCAD file, I, then, scaled it down through the wheel base to make certain of accuracy. After that I built a crate around the car in AutoCAD to match my cut lines. Following that I set up Dview and camera so that I could clip it at 8.5 inch increments from stem to stern and 5 inch increments from side to side. Meanwhile I left 1/4 inch gaps between all increments for my ply and hard board templates. (By the way, you can also do this in 3D Studio Max by using FOV but it won't be as accurate as AutoCAD)

One more thing, preset your plotter and use the hide button in the plot section when you print so that the trace lines appear as one or else you won't get accurate cuts. To see more details of my car log onto www.lamborghinireplica.com where Fred Nelson has been posting my car since the beginning when I actually started the project in my livingroom or you can contact me directly at artworkbybrian@hotmail.com. Furthermore, you can also check out this website to see part two of this particular adventure. Talk at you later.

Brian Wolff

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hlcole


67 Posts
Posted - February 08 2003 :  2:55:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Brian,

Can Lightwave 3D be used to completely do the job? I am willing to invest in a CAD/CAM program but buying 3dS Max or Lightwave or another 3D program and then also buying AutoCAD would go beyond my planned budget for software. I wanted to use Lightwave because it seems to be the simplest for modeling 3D objects. If Lightwave can't do the entire job, what can, if anything?

Thanks,
HLC

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MaTT869911

USA
243 Posts
Posted - February 08 2003 :  9:50:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*COUGH* Burn it *COUGH*

there are forums u can subscribe to for about 20 a month and be able to download and copy all of the software u want... i got a $5000 "speak and type" program (back when it was new)and a buncha games in one month.. and sure it might be immoral but its not illegal, cuz you are paying for the service.. not the programs... anyway no one flame me for this... i mean isnt this the same as building your own lambo or *******?

thanks
Matt

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - February 09 2003 :  11:27:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

*COUGH* Burn it *COUGH*

there are forums u can subscribe to for about 20 a month and be able to download and copy all of the software u want... i got a $5000 "speak and type" program (back when it was new)and a buncha games in one month.. and sure it might be immoral but its not illegal, cuz you are paying for the service.. not the programs... anyway no one flame me for this... i mean isnt this the same as building your own lambo or *******?

Well, speaking as a software engineer, and software company owner, who has designed and is currently selling a software package...

I'd have to say that I firmly believe that every software title out there should have a full trial-version available. I offer full-blown versions of my software for people to test. With one notable exception, everyone who has seen the software has purchased it after playing with it for awhile.

Like I've mentioned before, there's a magazine out there (3D World - www.3dworldmag.com) that includes full versions of many software titles (admittedly, it's usually not the most current version offered for sale) on CD. Y'all might want to look at their website and see what software they've offered with their past issues as well.

I don't know that burning a CD is the same as building your own lambo or ******* replica, though...It would be if you had all of the tools and programmed the software yourself.

No flaming, just offering an alternative POV.

Your pal,
Meat.


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MaTT869911

USA
243 Posts
Posted - February 09 2003 :  1:15:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey
well yes your right, burning a CD is not as *hard* as bilding a car, but its still toeing at the line of the law,on to another thaught....
but wait... u can sell ur car when ur done.. but u cant sell a burnt cd... this kinda makes me look at it from a diff angle...thanks meat

thanks for the non-flame
Matt

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - February 09 2003 :  10:59:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
thanks for the non-flame

Why would I flame you? People should be able to converse intelligently and present opposing viewpoints without resorting to childish personal attacks.

...c'mon, you're no stephenbl!

Your pal,
Meat.

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V12 Lover


54 Posts
Posted - February 15 2003 :  10:01:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lightwave is not a cadcam application not even a cad application. Though it has alot in common with cad applications id doesnt handle measurements as good as a cad applications and there are no plugins for cnc machining hardware like you have for ie. autocad. It doesnt produce any kind of blueprint. Lightwaves main task is to make rendered images and animations that look good on screen. Its a special effect tool for film and tv. However Lightwave does have e great modeler to model anything you can imagin. You should then be able to export your model to your cadcam application where you have to adjust the model and its scale and measurements so that your fiberglass body will fit the chassy. Hope this helps.

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Filip

USA
84 Posts
Posted - February 17 2003 :  12:07:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm using Rhino3D right now, but you may also try Maya. There is a FREE download of the program (for non commercial uses) online at their site:
http://www.aliaswavefront.com/en/products/maya/ple/index.shtm

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