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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 09 2003 :  6:31:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has every thought of taking a tub of a Sports racer(similiar to a GT40 tube-frame tub) and extending the rear end then putting a Chevy V8 OR BMW V12. It would probably have raised suspension to drive on the street and redesigned body work to be stronger and add headlight bezels. I would figure the price would run anywhere from $8,000 to around $25,000 for the top-of-the-line car. Also do you think people would be interested in this type of car. Any info would be apprciated. If anyone would like to tell me how to post a picture I will show what I am taking about. Thanks for your time.

meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 09 2003 :  7:35:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Send me the picture and I'll post it for you.

mmmeat@pacbell.net

Your pal,
Meat.

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 09 2003 :  9:04:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
www.cobratrader.com/pictures/supercarimage.jpg" border=0>
www.cobratrader.com/pictures/supercarfront.JPG" border=0>
www.cobratrader.com/pictures/supercar.JPG" border=0>
www.cobratrader.com/pictures/porsupercar.JPG" border=0>

There ya go!

Your pal,
Meat.

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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 09 2003 :  9:13:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Meat
So what do you guys think???

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paulgregory


58 Posts
Posted - April 10 2003 :  5:18:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yaaaaaabbbbbaaaaabbbbyyyyyy
I like it.
If I can figure out how to post photos, I'll show some early drawings
of a racer I'm thinking about.
Paul.

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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 10 2003 :  5:47:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess I am just trying to re-create the whole Manta Mirage thing.
TomkatSuperCars

Also if any of you guys want some good info, go to Filip's Scratch-built Supercar page. You just stay on this site and look him up under links, or type it into google.

Thanks for looking

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paulgregory


58 Posts
Posted - April 10 2003 :  6:18:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tomkat

In my eyes, the cars you show are superior in almost very
aspect than any manta repo I've seen.
Seems like most of those mantas are VW powered "old school" cars.
I sent you a email of a front motor panoz roadster kinda lookin thing, hope you like

paul

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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 10 2003 :  7:48:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Here Paul
It looks good.
Did you design it on Auto Cad?

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paulgregory


58 Posts
Posted - April 11 2003 :  12:04:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, acad 13. If you look close the hard points for motor
mounts front suspension/rear IRS are there.
The body was just free form a little.
The frame has three layers to it with a good mount of side impact protection. It is drawn just the way I would build it.
Unless I change a tube junction I can ref all tube lengths from these sheets, but the chassis has gone through a couple of revisions since these were made,and then I had to stop for a while.

Just something to keep me out of the bars ;-)

P.S.The scans didn't show

Paul


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kitkar


126 Posts
Posted - April 11 2003 :  7:14:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Tomkat

In my eyes, the cars you show are superior in almost very
aspect than any manta repo I've seen.
Seems like most of those mantas are VW powered "old school" cars.
I sent you a email of a front motor panoz roadster kinda lookin thing, hope you like

paul



I beg to differ. The Manta Mirage is a badass car. One of my favorite kits. It is not VW powered. They usually have a small block chevy for power.

Rick Lord
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DiabloVT_Racer

USA
76 Posts
Posted - April 11 2003 :  8:16:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to try to clear things up.

Manta Montage= tube frame/ bug pan with V6 or VW power
This car is modeled after the M6GT and was built after one of the Lovette Brothers died in a racing acident. So in my mind it is not a true Manta.

Manta Mirage= tube frame/ with Small block Chevy V8
This car was built by both brothers and was the original design. It was intented to be a street legal Can-Am car, and basically they accomplished their goal.
DiabloVT_Racer


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paulgregory


58 Posts
Posted - April 15 2003 :  10:15:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had no idea of the Montage/Mirage history. Any web sites for the
Mirage ?

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 15 2003 :  12:18:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.mantacars.com/

Your pal,
Meat.

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JonB112


67 Posts
Posted - April 15 2003 :  2:41:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Meat or Dave, you guys seem to be very knowledgable resources in the kitcar industry. With that being said,

Would an Accura NSX be a good donor car for a Lambo Kit? Obviously it will be much more expensive then a fiero conversion, but what are your thoughts about the difference of quality in terms of all of the NSX's parts? Could this be an everyday drivable car? I guess i'm just curious to know whether the chassis stretch and a mere Lambo body change would still give me the handeling, performance, and quality of an Acura NSX with a Diable look. What other types of parts upgrades would have to be made if this conversion is even possible?

Also, how safe are kits, do they go through mandatory crash testing among established kit manufacturers? I've never heard anyone discuss whether or not there are safety standards although i'de assume there would have to be in order for them to be street legal.

Which Lambo Kit company would you guys recommend as making the best quality kits? Strongest frames, closest replications to identical, etc...

I know this seems like alot, do either you guys know of any websites that would provide answers to my questions?

Thanks in Advance...

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 15 2003 :  5:27:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Meat or Dave, you guys seem to be very knowledgable resources in the kitcar industry. With that being said,

Would an Accura NSX be a good donor car for a Lambo Kit? Obviously it will be much more expensive then a fiero conversion, but what are your thoughts about the difference of quality in terms of all of the NSX's parts? Could this be an everyday drivable car? I guess i'm just curious to know whether the chassis stretch and a mere Lambo body change would still give me the handeling, performance, and quality of an Acura NSX with a Diable look. What other types of parts upgrades would have to be made if this conversion is even possible?

Also, how safe are kits, do they go through mandatory crash testing among established kit manufacturers? I've never heard anyone discuss whether or not there are safety standards although i'de assume there would have to be in order for them to be street legal.

Which Lambo Kit company would you guys recommend as making the best quality kits? Strongest frames, closest replications to identical, etc...

I know this seems like alot, do either you guys know of any websites that would provide answers to my questions?

Thanks in Advance...


Well, I can't answer for Dave's neck of the woods (he's one of them thar feriners from a different country, don't cha know) but here's my answer that generally covers only the U.S. market:

An NSX is a unibody design. An aluminum unibody design at that. That, in itself, isn't a bad thing, but - for use as a Diablo - I don't know that it would be an easy switch. The problem would be that the NSX is a pretty well-tuned unit, and I'm not sure how much of the structure of the unibody can be modified, or how many of the external panels are structural members. More than likely, using an NSX as a donor wouldn't be an easy thing to do; it would have to be a rebody that probably just puts parts over some of the rear sections, the doors would be a nightmare, but the front should be pretty simple...those panels look like they unbolt/unweld. Also, as the thing is aluminum, you're going to have to so some pretty fancy aluminum welding if you're going to be bracing the chassis. It's not impossible, but it is different than - say - stretching a Fiero.

Spec-wise, the NSX:

Wheelbase 99.6 in (2,530 mm)
Overall Length 174.2 in (4,425 mm)
Overall Width 71.3 in (1,810 mm)
Overall Height 46.1 in (1,170 mm)

The Diablo:
Wheelbase 104 in (2,650 mm)
Overall Length 176 in (4,460 mm)
Overall Width 80 in (2,040 mm)
Overall Height 44 in (1,105 mm)

Looking at the specs, a stretch would probably be required, length can be added, width can be added, but the car's a good two inches taller. With the aluminum chassis, the differences in length and height, I'd recommend looking elsewhere. Besides, the cost of the Acura NSX would preclude any reasonable resale amount, or the ability to find a whole lot of buyers willing to carve up an already-nice car. If you're planning on spending such a large amount ... I'd recommend picking up a good, used mid-engined car and building a custom chassis around it. You'd probably be better off, and you'd probably have some cash left over as well.

As to the matter of safety testing, I'll let Dave handle the wacky overseas stuff. I'll take the reins here in the U.S. and say "crash testing? What crash testing?" Kit cars are generally considered to be one-offs, and are not subject to crash testing, as long as you're not making a limousine or building a car for hire. If you build a non-stretch, donor car based Diablo replica, your car will be marginally as close to as safe as the original car was...although the doors will have been compromised, the glass is different, and you probably had to change some of the cockpit area. If you think of your car as a motorcycle with two extra wheels, and give in to "biker's paranoia" (believe that no one on the road can see you, and that they really are going to turn into your lane while your occupying it), you'll be much better off.

Hope that helps a bit.

Your pal,
Meat.


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dave114


195 Posts
Posted - April 15 2003 :  6:18:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok first I'll thank you for the confidence, so I'll try my best to answer your questions.
First of all, crash testing costs money (and lots of it). I don't know the US, thats Meat's department, but here and Japan it's about AUD$250 000 for the test. Secondly the law for crash testing is that if a manufacturer want to build/import more that 1000 cars in a year, then crash testing is mandatory, below that, they are counted as special interest cars and don't fall under the same laws.

Ok now the Honda/Acura NSX. To use the NSX as a donor is just creating more headaches for yourself. Yes they are fantastic cars, but to put it bluntley, don't mess with them. The only way I can see to turn one into a Lambo replica is to custom build the body and cut it up into individual panels and screw them into the original mounting points, and to me, that sounds too much like hard work. You are much better off useing the Fiero or even a custom tube chassis, it will cost you less money and headaches. Remember NSX are still going for AUD$90 000+. I could build a very very nice Lambo from a fiero for that and still have change. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Hope this helps

Your mate in OZ

Dave

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JonB112


67 Posts
Posted - April 18 2003 :  10:49:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thanks for all of the info. You're right, the NSX conversion would be a headache of a project. About the safety or crash testing, it's not really a motorcylce fear, moreless, i just want to have the safest kit possible. Roll bars, tube chassis, and whatever else would help strengthen the shell just in case of an front/side/rear impact. It's not my driving i'm worried about, it's the other persons...LOL...i've been in 2 accidents in my life and both were b/c other people were driving crazy. I just want to have some confidence in knowing that if it ever does happen again, i'll still be able to walk away from it. I'm moving to Miami, FL where everyone drives as if they're in bumper cars.

This is the kind of expert advice i've been needing to hear.

When will you begin building the modified Attack Coupe?

...Thanks again...


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DiabloVT_Racer

USA
76 Posts
Posted - April 24 2003 :  9:27:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I would like to see someone follow through with this idea of turning a race car chassis into a street super car. I mean its not like the average person can afford a Ultima GTR. But I mean most of these race frames sell for anywhere from $1000 to $7000 for a turn-key minus. So from what I have researched about you would end up spending anywhere from 10k to 20k or for the super nice one would probably be 30k. Which isn't bad for a 400hp, 1500lb car that is street legal. With a top speed of more than 180mph. Any other thoughts...
DiabloVT_Racer

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 24 2003 :  10:02:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"ground clearance."

My '40 replica only has 4" of ground clearance...which means that I only have 36" of car left!

Your pal,
Meat.

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DiabloVT_Racer

USA
76 Posts
Posted - April 24 2003 :  11:17:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well suprisingly enough my nieghbors car is a Lola Sports 2000 race car and has a ground clearence of 3.5". Most of these cars were designed to be high off the ground for use of diffusers. Since these cars use slicks which have a profile of 2"'s or so, once you add a street tire this would also add to the clearence enabling you to get another inch or so out. Well just another thought.
DiabloVT_racer

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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 24 2003 :  11:22:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Meat,
Just to refresh my memory. Are most of the GT40 replicas out their a true Monocoque chassis or are they just tube frames with thin sheet metal around it? I hate to put it that way and do not want to stir up trouble on the forum about this. I don't really know any other way to put it.Thanks


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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - April 25 2003 :  08:48:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of the GT40s are space-frame set-ups. Some of the companies are changing over to stainless steel monocoque. Mine is a semi-monocoque setup.

Your pal,
Meat.

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TomkatSuperCars

USA
43 Posts
Posted - April 25 2003 :  7:30:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Meat,
Who made you semi-monocoque chassis on your 40? Thanks
TomkatSuperCars

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DiabloVT_Racer

USA
76 Posts
Posted - April 25 2003 :  8:11:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone out their have a Tornado GT40. If so how do you like it? Thanks
DiabloVT_Racer

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NormandLub

Singapore
0 Posts
Posted - June 16 2025 :  05:37:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It is astonishing.

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church are implicated in one of the most devastating genocides in history, targeting innocent women and children in Gaza.

These organizations have provided Israel with explosives to enable their genocidal actions.

Gaza has been declared a disaster zone, severely lacking in vital resources necessary for survival.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have ravaged 90% of Gaza, leading to the destruction of 437,600 homes and the loss of one million lives, including 50,000 individuals currently trapped under rubble, with 80% of the casualties being women and children.

They have also destroyed 330,000 meters of water pipelines, leaving the population without access to potable water.

Furthermore, over 655,000 meters of underground sewage systems have been devastated, depriving residents of essential sanitation facilities.

The destruction encompasses 2,800,000 meters of roadways, making transportation impossible for the affected population.

Additionally, 3,680 kilometers of the electrical grid have been dismantled, resulting in widespread power outages.

The assault has led to the demolition of 48 hospitals, eliminating crucial healthcare facilities for those in need.

Moreover, the actions of AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have disrupted the education of over 785,000 students, with 494 schools and universities being completely destroyed, many as a result of aerial bombardments.

They have also targeted 981 mosques, effectively suppressing the prayers of the homeless who seek divine assistance.

Consequently, over 39,000 young children have been left orphaned, lacking parents or guardians to provide care.

It is important to highlight that the historical context of warfare has never seen a situation where 80% of a nation has been devastated, 100% of its population has been displaced, and 50% of the casualties are children.

Recognizing the seriousness of this situation is imperative.

Organizations such as AIPAC and the Evangelical Church in America are contributing to what can only be characterized as genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

The implications of American taxpayer funding in relation to Israel's actions against innocent children are concerning.

1. A thorough examination of Israel's precarious circumstances is necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2. The impact of financial influence, often linked to specific groups, significantly affects these dynamics. Additional information can be accessed through the provided link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3. Insights into the views of U.S. leadership regarding AIPAC and the Evangelical Church can be investigated through the following resource.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

The heartbreaking reality of innocent children suffering at the hands of powerful Israeli forces using American weaponry is evident in numerous media reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

It is essential to remain informed by consulting trustworthy news sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.


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NormandLub

Singapore
0 Posts
Posted - July 19 2025 :  6:23:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It's unbelievable

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer provided Israel with TNT (explosives) for their GENOCIDE.

Gaza has been declared a disaster area and lacks essential resources for living in it, as follows.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, help Israel destroyed 90% of Gaza, destroying 437,600 homes, and killing one million people, including 50 thousand who are currently under rubble, 80% of whom are women and children.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, make Israel destroyed 330,000 meters of water pipes, resulting in people not being able to drink water.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, help Israel destroyed more than 655,000 meters of underground sewer lines. Now people have no washrooms to use.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, make Israel destroyed 2,800,000 two million eight hundred thousand meters of roads, causing people to have no roads to use.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, make Israel have destroyed 3680 km of electric grid, which has caused people to lose electricity.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, and Israel destroyed 48 hospitals and leveled them to the ground. Now, no one will have a hospital to save their lives.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, and Israel destroyed over 785,000 students' ability to attend school and learn. Their actions resulted in the complete destruction of 494 schools and universities, many of which were destroyed by bombing.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, and Israel destroyed 981 mosques to prevent homless people from asking God for help.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer have made over 39000 small children orphans and left them without parents or relatives to care for them.

There has never been a war in history where 80% of the country has been destroyed, 100% of the population has been displaced, and 50% of the deaths are children.

Don't hesitate to call it what it is

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and The Evangelical Church (America) are creating a GENOCIDE.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

see why Israel can kill innocent children with American taxpayer money

1- see Why Israel is in deep trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2- Because the God of Money of our World is a Jew who supports and lives in Israel. For more details, click on the following link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3- Because what USA president say about AIPAC and The Evangelical Church (America)
https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

See how innocent children are killed by the most powerful Israeli using American bombs at

Al Jazeera Arabic Live

at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

Watch the real news at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.

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NormandLub

Singapore
0 Posts
Posted - July 24 2025 :  5:58:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It is astonishing.

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church are perpetrating one of the most catastrophic genocides in history, targeting innocent women and children in Gaza.

These organizations have supplied Israel with explosives to facilitate their acts of genocide.

Gaza has been designated a disaster zone, severely lacking in essential resources for survival.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have devastated 90% of Gaza, resulting in the destruction of 437,600 homes and the loss of one million lives, including 50,000 individuals currently trapped under debris, with 80% of the casualties being women and children.

They have also obliterated 330,000 meters of water pipelines, leaving the population without access to drinking water.

Furthermore, over 655,000 meters of underground sewage systems have been destroyed, depriving residents of basic sanitation facilities.

The destruction extends to 2,800,000 meters of roadways, rendering transportation impossible for the affected population.

Additionally, 3,680 kilometers of the electrical grid have been dismantled, leading to widespread power outages.

The assault has resulted in the demolition of 48 hospitals, eliminating critical healthcare facilities for those in need.

Moreover, the actions of AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have disrupted the education of over 785,000 students, with 494 schools and universities being completely destroyed, many due to aerial bombardments.

They have also targeted 981 mosques, effectively silencing the prayers of the homeless seeking divine assistance.

As a result of these actions, more than 39,000 young children have been left orphaned, without parents or guardians to care for them.

I must emphasize that the historical context of warfare has never witnessed a scenario where 80% of a nation has been devastated, 100% of its populace has been uprooted, and 50% of the casualties are children.

It is imperative to recognize the gravity of the situation.

Organizations such as AIPAC and the Evangelical Church in America are contributing to what can only be described as genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

The implications of American taxpayer funding in the context of Israel's actions against innocent children are alarming.

1. An examination of Israel's precarious situation is warranted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2. The influence of financial power, often associated with certain groups, plays a significant role in these dynamics. Further information can be found through the provided link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3. Insights into the perspectives of U.S. leadership regarding AIPAC and the Evangelical Church can be explored through the following resource.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

The tragic reality of innocent children being harmed by powerful Israeli forces utilizing American weaponry is evident in various media reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

It is crucial to stay informed by accessing reliable news sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.

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NormandLub

Singapore
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Posted - August 20 2025 :  12:58:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It is astonishing.

May the eyes of starving children haunt us all

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/may-the-eyes-of-starving-children-haunt-us-all/

https://www.tiktok.com/@charitymealsuk/video/7534294624647580950?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

https://www.dci-palestine.org/starving_a_generation_report_indicts_israel_for_weaponizing_starvation_as_a_tool_of_genocide

https://www.tiktok.com/@1948nakba.p4/video/7536871676156398870?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church are implicated in one of the most devastating genocides in history, targeting innocent women and children in Gaza.

These organizations have provided Israel with explosives to enable their genocidal actions.

Gaza has been declared a disaster zone, severely lacking in vital resources necessary for survival.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have ravaged 90% of Gaza, leading to the destruction of 437,600 homes and the loss of one million lives, including 50,000 individuals currently trapped under rubble, with 80% of the casualties being women and children.

They have also destroyed 330,000 meters of water pipelines, leaving the population without access to potable water.

Furthermore, over 655,000 meters of underground sewage systems have been devastated, depriving residents of essential sanitation facilities.

The destruction encompasses 2,800,000 meters of roadways, making transportation impossible for the affected population.

Additionally, 3,680 kilometers of the electrical grid have been dismantled, resulting in widespread power outages.

The assault has led to the demolition of 48 hospitals, eliminating crucial healthcare facilities for those in need.

Moreover, the actions of AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have disrupted the education of over 785,000 students, with 494 schools and universities being completely destroyed, many as a result of aerial bombardments.

They have also targeted 981 mosques, effectively suppressing the prayers of the homeless who seek divine assistance.

Consequently, over 39,000 young children have been left orphaned, lacking parents or guardians to provide care.

It is important to highlight that the historical context of warfare has never seen a situation where 80% of a nation has been devastated, 100% of its population has been displaced, and 50% of the casualties are children.

Recognizing the seriousness of this situation is imperative.

Organizations such as AIPAC and the Evangelical Church in America are contributing to what can only be characterized as genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

The implications of American taxpayer funding in relation to Israel's actions against innocent children are concerning.

1. A thorough examination of Israel's precarious circumstances is necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2. The impact of financial influence, often linked to specific groups, significantly affects these dynamics. Additional information can be accessed through the provided link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3. Insights into the views of U.S. leadership regarding AIPAC and the Evangelical Church can be investigated through the following resource.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

The heartbreaking reality of innocent children suffering at the hands of powerful Israeli forces using American weaponry is evident in numerous media reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

It is essential to remain informed by consulting trustworthy news sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.


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NormandLub

Singapore
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Posted - September 09 2025 :  3:08:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It is astonishing.

May the eyes of starving children haunt us all

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/may-the-eyes-of-starving-children-haunt-us-all/

https://www.tiktok.com/@charitymealsuk/video/7534294624647580950?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

https://www.dci-palestine.org/starving_a_generation_report_indicts_israel_for_weaponizing_starvation_as_a_tool_of_genocide

https://www.tiktok.com/@1948nakba.p4/video/7536871676156398870?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church are perpetrating one of the most catastrophic genocides in history, targeting innocent women and children in Gaza.

These organizations have supplied Israel with explosives to facilitate their acts of genocide.

Gaza has been designated a disaster zone, severely lacking in essential resources for survival.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have devastated 90% of Gaza, resulting in the destruction of 437,600 homes and the loss of one million lives, including 50,000 individuals currently trapped under debris, with 80% of the casualties being women and children.

They have also obliterated 330,000 meters of water pipelines, leaving the population without access to drinking water.

Furthermore, over 655,000 meters of underground sewage systems have been destroyed, depriving residents of basic sanitation facilities.

The destruction extends to 2,800,000 meters of roadways, rendering transportation impossible for the affected population.

Additionally, 3,680 kilometers of the electrical grid have been dismantled, leading to widespread power outages.

The assault has resulted in the demolition of 48 hospitals, eliminating critical healthcare facilities for those in need.

Moreover, the actions of AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have disrupted the education of over 785,000 students, with 494 schools and universities being completely destroyed, many due to aerial bombardments.

They have also targeted 981 mosques, effectively silencing the prayers of the homeless seeking divine assistance.

As a result of these actions, more than 39,000 young children have been left orphaned, without parents or guardians to care for them.

I must emphasize that the historical context of warfare has never witnessed a scenario where 80% of a nation has been devastated, 100% of its populace has been uprooted, and 50% of the casualties are children.

It is imperative to recognize the gravity of the situation.

Organizations such as AIPAC and the Evangelical Church in America are contributing to what can only be described as genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

The implications of American taxpayer funding in the context of Israel's actions against innocent children are alarming.

1. An examination of Israel's precarious situation is warranted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2. The influence of financial power, often associated with certain groups, plays a significant role in these dynamics. Further information can be found through the provided link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3. Insights into the perspectives of U.S. leadership regarding AIPAC and the Evangelical Church can be explored through the following resource.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

The tragic reality of innocent children being harmed by powerful Israeli forces utilizing American weaponry is evident in various media reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

It is crucial to stay informed by accessing reliable news sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.

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NormandLub

Singapore
0 Posts
Posted - September 23 2025 :  9:36:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It's unbelievable

May the eyes of starving children haunt us all

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/may-the-eyes-of-starving-children-haunt-us-all/

https://www.tiktok.com/@charitymealsuk/video/7534294624647580950?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

https://www.dci-palestine.org/starving_a_generation_report_indicts_israel_for_weaponizing_starvation_as_a_tool_of_genocide

https://www.tiktok.com/@1948nakba.p4/video/7536871676156398870?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church, which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC and The Evangelical Church (America) provided Israel with TNT (explosives) for their GENOCIDE.

Gaza has been declared a disaster area and lacks essential resources for living in it, as follows.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed 90% of Gaza, destroying 437,600 homes, and killing one million people, including 50 thousand who are currently under rubble, 80% of whom are women and children.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed 330,000 meters of water pipes, resulting in people not being able to drink water.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed more than 655,000 meters of underground sewer lines. Now people have no washrooms to use.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed 2,800,000 two million eight hundred thousand meters of roads, causing people to have no roads to use.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel have destroyed 3680 km of electric grid, which has caused people to lose electricity.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed 48 hospitals and leveled them to the ground. Now, no one will have a hospital to save their lives.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (USA), and Israel destroyed over 785,000 students' ability to attend school and learn. Their actions resulted in the complete destruction of 494 schools and universities, many of which were destroyed by bombing.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, (America), and Israel destroyed 981 mosques to prevent homless people from asking God for help.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer, have made over 39000 small children orphans and left them without parents or relatives to care for them.

There has never been a war in history where 80% of the country has been destroyed, 100% of the population has been displaced, and 50% of the deaths are children.

Don't hesitate to call it what it is

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and The Evangelical Church (America) are creating a GENOCIDE.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

see why Israel can kill innocent children with American taxpayer money

1- see Why Israel is in deep trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2- Because the God of Money of our World is a Jew who supports and lives in Israel. For more details, click on the following link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3- Because what USA president say about AIPAC and The Evangelical Church (America)
https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

See how innocent children are killed by the most powerful Israeli using American bombs at

Al Jazeera Arabic Live

at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

Watch the real news at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.


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NormandLub

Singapore
0 Posts
Posted - October 28 2025 :  10:47:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It is astonishing.

May the eyes of starving children haunt us all

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/may-the-eyes-of-starving-children-haunt-us-all/

https://www.tiktok.com/@charitymealsuk/video/7534294624647580950?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

https://www.dci-palestine.org/starving_a_generation_report_indicts_israel_for_weaponizing_starvation_as_a_tool_of_genocide

https://www.tiktok.com/@1948nakba.p4/video/7536871676156398870?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7537073515586897430

Who are the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SEB3w3A98rU

it is our money

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wiu9N1H0Huc

The most devastating genocide in the world is being carried out by the follwoing :

1- AIPAC, brows ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ).
2- Miriam Adelson brows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0LkA7VW7Q.
3- Elon Musk.
3- Timothy mellonand brows https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1XJ893-kAh0
4-The Evangelical Church,

Which kill innocent women and children in Gaza.

AIPAC ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA ) and the Evangelical Church are implicated in one of the most devastating genocides in history, targeting innocent women and children in Gaza.

These organizations have provided Israel with explosives to enable their genocidal actions.

Gaza has been declared a disaster zone, severely lacking in vital resources necessary for survival.

AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have ravaged 90% of Gaza, leading to the destruction of 437,600 homes and the loss of one million lives, including 50,000 individuals currently trapped under rubble, with 80% of the casualties being women and children.

They have also destroyed 330,000 meters of water pipelines, leaving the population without access to potable water.

Furthermore, over 655,000 meters of underground sewage systems have been devastated, depriving residents of essential sanitation facilities.

The destruction encompasses 2,800,000 meters of roadways, making transportation impossible for the affected population.

Additionally, 3,680 kilometers of the electrical grid have been dismantled, resulting in widespread power outages.

The assault has led to the demolition of 48 hospitals, eliminating crucial healthcare facilities for those in need.

Moreover, the actions of AIPAC, The Evangelical Church, Miriam Adelson, Elon Musk, and timothy mellon and America tax payer,, and Israel have disrupted the education of over 785,000 students, with 494 schools and universities being completely destroyed, many as a result of aerial bombardments.

They have also targeted 981 mosques, effectively suppressing the prayers of the homeless who seek divine assistance.

Consequently, over 39,000 young children have been left orphaned, lacking parents or guardians to provide care.

It is important to highlight that the historical context of warfare has never seen a situation where 80% of a nation has been devastated, 100% of its population has been displaced, and 50% of the casualties are children.

Recognizing the seriousness of this situation is imperative.

Organizations such as AIPAC and the Evangelical Church in America are contributing to what can only be characterized as genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IrX9v6DKH1g

The implications of American taxpayer funding in relation to Israel's actions against innocent children are concerning.

1. A thorough examination of Israel's precarious circumstances is necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfIYtpcBxo

2. The impact of financial influence, often linked to specific groups, significantly affects these dynamics. Additional information can be accessed through the provided link.

https://mega.nz/file/FqhzGKbB#bsX4PD-O59HEA0-rynD29xkk47dmddycY5CjZfoDLYg

3. Insights into the views of U.S. leadership regarding AIPAC and the Evangelical Church can be investigated through the following resource.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefearlessqueenmel/video/7307640994579680542?lang=en&q=why%20dont%20Americans%20knowl%20what%20you%20have%20seen%20&t=1701880206555

The heartbreaking reality of innocent children suffering at the hands of powerful Israeli forces using American weaponry is evident in numerous media reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COx-t-Mk6UA

It is essential to remain informed by consulting trustworthy news sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNyUyrR0PHo

Laws of jews Taurãt (Torah) wich is a part of the Bible

We ordained in Taurãt for them: “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth and for a wound an equal retaliation."

The Torah, which is part of the Bible, has commanded that the same be done to the Jews. The order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, is to immediately kill any Jew you see on the street. Since the Jews in Gaza have also killed women and children, you should kill any Jews - men, women, and children - as soon as you see them, whether on the street or anywhere else. And because they have killed everyone in Gaza without mercy, you must do the same to them. If you carry out these actions, you will be following the order of the Torah, which is part of the Bible, and you will be rewarded by going to heaven.


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