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strider3700
41 Posts |
 Posted - February 22 2003 : 11:03:58 AM
I'm a huge fan of AWD and kit cars, however I've never seen a kit using AWD. Does anyone know of one? I'm considering building my own, using the drive train from a skyline GTR However I'd like a Mid/Rear engine placement. Is this going to be impossible? Ignoring the size issue of craming something that size behind the driver, The entire thing will rotate the wrong way of course. Is there an easy solution to something like this? Or am I stuck with a Front engine placement? I know porsche has a Rear engine AWD 996 But even wrecked the parts are out of my cost range. |
strider3700
41 Posts |
Posted - February 26 2003 : 10:58:49 PM
No one else is interested in AWD kits?
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Filip
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - March 02 2003 : 4:55:55 PM
Hey Strider3700,I'm very interested too. I've been looking around for a mid/rear AWD solution but I haven't found anything. Like you, I've considered taking a Subaru setup (Supra seems nice as well)and flipping it, and then SOMEHOW working out the gearing (so you have 5 fwd gears and not 5 reverse). As you said, there's also the possibility of using an old AWD Porsche 996 setup (didn't the 901 have it as well? hmm)... but yeah, that's a little pricey for me as well. Send me an email if you make any headway on this. You might also check up on my website from time to time... I might find something of interest.
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swoodard23
204 Posts |
Posted - March 02 2003 : 8:59:20 PM
I don't think the subaru thing will work. A vw tranny can be flipped because the ring gear can be flipped but as far as I know that isn't possible with the suby. Another option would be to get a reverse cam that makes the engine spin the opposite direction but I don't know a manufacturer of those either. An idea I thought of but have no idea of how to implement would be to mount a front wheel drive engine and tranny sideways so that the output shafts (original axles) faced the front and rear of the car. Install front and rear axles and connect them to the tranny via custom made driveshafts. It would take and engineering feat. Also, with 60% of your weight over the rear wheels in a typical mid-engine car over your drive wheels, you have to wonder if AWD is really necessary unless you have an unreal amount of horsepower.
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dave114
195 Posts |
Posted - March 03 2003 : 5:31:07 PM
Guys, I'm sorry but there isn't a cheap way of doing it. As for the Skyline and the WRX, you have to remember that they both have computer controlled LSDs, so turning them around will confused the ****e out of the computer, so you will need the reprogram the computer ( very, very difficult and expensive) so I'm afaraid unless you can fork out for a Porsche AWD system your stuck with the original settings of the car. On the other hand it is possible to to use the Skyline engine in a mid-mount car.
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Trevor
Canada
64 Posts |
Posted - November 29 2003 : 4:24:29 PM
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Guys, I'm sorry but there isn't a cheap way of doing it. As for the Skyline and the WRX, you have to remember that they both have computer controlled LSDs, so turning them around will confused the ****e out of the computer, so you will need the reprogram the computer ( very, very difficult and expensive) so I'm afaraid unless you can fork out for a Porsche AWD system your stuck with the original settings of the car. On the other hand it is possible to to use the Skyline engine in a mid-mount car.
Even if you managed to get a Porsche AWD system, it's still rear engine. I would imagine there would be significant work required to "flip it" and then reroute the drive to the front. Perhaps a Audi Quattro driveline?? Move it back, then use a marine V-Drive to get to the front ?????
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Bradley_914
37 Posts |
Posted - August 16 2005 : 9:14:45 PM
I've been thinking about working a "suby" AWD into a 914 (mid-engine for those who didn't know). I was thinking of just using a switch-back transfer case and running the shaft back to the front under the engine and tranny. This way there would not need to be any attempt at gear flipping or engine reversal. You would need to anchor it well and use some under-carriage protection (like on a 4x4) to ensure you don't grind the shaft on any speed bumps.
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