Stephenbl, Stephenbl, Stephenbl...Y'know, I really do feel sorry for you. Not so much because you keep attacking me, but because you are so absolutely outclassed.
I want to help you out.
The problem with your posts - beyond lying about alot of things - is that you don't present the information very well, and you don't know what you're talking about. If you were to actually lay out your argument in a simple, easy-to-understand fashion, there is a chance (remote though it may be) that someone may believe something you say.
Let me help you.
First off, attacking others is just not going to win any friends or influence any people. You need to stick to facts. You need to attack only the facts. If you attack others just to attack them, you'll lose.
Also, it helps to know your subject backwards and forwards. If you know your subject, you'll have much more going in the credibility department.
Never ask a question if you don't know the answer before you ask it.
Do not attempt to sensationalize anything. Changing fonts or font sizes is a beginner's mistake. Only use bold, underline or italics to emphasize a point or bring emotion to a word or small group of words. Overuse will lose your audience.
Never attack someone's posting style.
Never attempt to speak for others. The biggest mistake (besides logging on as someone else and agreeing with yourself - a serious no-no!) you can make is to attempt to speak for others, or say something to the effect of "several of us have discussed it." That's a clear indication that you have not discussed it. With anyone. Ever.
Never bring in extraneous arguments to a thread. Always stay on target.
Never tell someone what your post is "going to" do. This is stupid. It's especially moronic if it says it's going to do something, and not only does it NOT do it, but it does something completely different instead. The best thing you can do is to present your argument, and allow the audience to make up their own mind. Don't attempt to say there are "people" on your side, don't attempt to say that you speak for others, don't be an idiot.
If someone asks you for something, give it to them. If you're telling the truth, then this is never an issue. If it's not...you just lost. No matter what you say from that point forward, you will only show how petty and childish you are.
Never argue from a position of weakness. Knowledge is power.
These are all rookie mistakes. You've made every one of them (did you notice the use of the bold, italic and underline there? That's how it should be done), most of them repeatedly.
Here are some examples:
You've never provided any credible evidence that you own an FFR. You lose your audience if you can't back up what you say. Not only did you fail completely here, losing your audience, but you then asked me where my FFR was. Bad move, considering that you didn't know if I had an FFR or not. Never do that. Then, when I showed you where the info was on the Briquette, you accepted that wholeheartedly, attacking me immediately about owning an FFR. Once again rookie mistakes.
Your latest error is your last post here. It's rambling. I ramble, but I ramble with style, and always with a point. And I never resort to font changes or overuse of typestyles. Back in the day - before the advent of desktop publishing - print companies used to layout artwork and documents using one or two fonts at most. Once the Macintosh came out, it changed forever the landscape of the print media; people would mix and match typestyles almost every word. This makes they eye work too hard, and you lose your audience. You should never change fonts, styles, or font size in your argument unless it is absolutely necessary. And then, only do it sparingly.
Also, hearsay isn't admissible in court, and in the court of public opinion, it's even less believable. The fool's gambit is to include quotes from an email - real or imagined - written to you in an argument. There's no proof. If it's on the web somewhere where it can be verified, then it's a completely different story.
I can tell you right away that the biggest problem you've got to overcome is logging on as a different person and coming to your own defense. That was incredibly stupid, to the point of lunacy. I would imagine that you lost most of your audience at that point. Never ever do that. What that did is hamper anything else you would present; especially your hearsay arguments. Had you not brought in your imaginary friend, you might have been able to have some shred of believability left by the time you made this last post.
While we're on the subject of hearsay, here's one other thing you need to make sure of. Make sure that you're talking to the person you're quoting. For instance, info isn't Mike Mack. Info could be anyone at Tristate. But that's irrelevant, because I don't believe that those emails were ever made. You need to make sure that you are talking to THE person you're quoting. I have Mike Mack's email address. I've got his office number. I've got his cell number and his home phone number. Why? Because I've actually talked to him a number of times. I've spent entire days hanging out with him.
Oh, and if you're going to say that someone said something, make sure you spell their name right. For example, you repeatedly refer to Mike Mack as "Mick." Once again, this is just a credibility thing. If you don't want to have any, by all means continue down the path you're going. Who cares if "Mick" corroborates your claims...especially if it's just your discredited word that says it's so? You've got to work harder on your sources. You've got to present creditable information. You've got to regain any small shred of believability before you can present "Mick's" information and have anyone believe it.
Until you can write an argument that is clear, concise and made up of facts, you will continue to have no audience. Checkmate? Hardly. They won't even give you a Big Kids meal at McDonalds, much less have you play with something you can swallow, like a chess piece. Until you have some actually knowledge, and use sources that are creditable, and act like you can eat at the grown-up table you will not be believed.
As I said before, you don't know what you're talking about. As I said above, I don't believe you own an FFR. As I am now firmly convinced, I do not believe that you have EVER built any kit car from any company ever. Your believability factor is that low. You may now return to playing Pokemon.
Your pal,
Meat.
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Posted - February 06 2003 : 7:59:16 PM
