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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - December 14 2004 :  7:32:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont know if youve seen this awsome company yet? but take a look at their site . its a near perfect murcielago finally and a stunning batmobile too. the roof of the murci looks just about perfect and the back of the car as well much better than the others ive seen.take a look for yourself , the pics shall say it all!!!!
now i can finally get a murcielago that looks like the real deal. the diablo for me is too old looking . anyways take at look at their site !
here............http://www.exoticreplicasusa.com

pantera

USA
310 Posts
Posted - December 15 2004 :  1:10:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree that the Murcielago is dam near perfect!

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KitcarUSA


78 Posts
Posted - December 15 2004 :  2:40:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That Audi V8 install looks neat.

John

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - December 15 2004 :  9:40:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nice find huh? that murci is the one we had been waiting for! finally a nice top plus back of the super car.
the bentley loks good too.

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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 18 2004 :  7:40:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can sombody tell me the differnce in the jota ram air hood and the regualr SE. Also the differnce in the SE and VT spoilers?


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pantera

USA
310 Posts
Posted - December 21 2004 :  5:28:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Jota model was like a Yenko Camaro meaning it was a custom. Plus they were banned from american highways and roads because it was able to out perform a standard Police car on the streight and there was no way the cops would ever beable to stop it if the ever fell into the wrong hands.

The SE rear wing was designed to make the car handle much better at high speeds. Just like the normal VT wing except that one was made to keep the car from losing control since it was a rearwheel drive. Now the Diablo 6.0 wing was only an option but eventhough the car was a great handling car with the wing it made it just a little bit better.

A rear wing can make any car handle like an F16 fighter jet! depending on the car and wing. Its pointless to put them on a civic that cant even 150mph though if anything it makes the car more heavy and most of the time they wouldnt be racing on the track.

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - December 21 2004 :  5:50:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like all the lambos better without the spoilers.

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Kael

USA
64 Posts
Posted - December 22 2004 :  11:28:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anyone else find it funny that ricers put huge wings on the back of their cars for lots of downforce on the rear, basically lifting the front a bit and taking traction away from their FRONT WHEEL drive cars.


so is this site legit?

-K

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Kael

USA
64 Posts
Posted - December 22 2004 :  11:35:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whoa, wait a minute, on their engine swap page some iffy stuff:

3800 II Super charge Parts
Wiring harnnes for a derect plug and play into 84-88 Fiero or Diablo kit----$1,000
Pully set for 3800 II hp goes from 260 to 275 for only-------------------------$375
Adapter plate and flywheel to fit a 3800 II to a 915 porsche tranny---------$575
Adapter plate and flywheel to fit a 3800 II to a 914 Porsche Tranny--------$575
Hiflow fuel pump-----------------------------------------------------------------$175
Computer Up grade Rev up to 6,400rpms unsted or th normal 5,600 and add up
to 30hp for----------------------------------------------------------------------$1,600
4T65eHD tranny with custom axles--------------------------------------Call for price

okay I am from the grand prix community and we basically invented all this stuff
the engine is 240 not 260
a pulley is 100 not 375
and a full custom suite to let you program your own pcm and flash it yourself is 399, a simple reprogram is like 199

check www.clubgp.com
and look for vendor sites.

-K

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MaTT869911

USA
243 Posts
Posted - December 22 2004 :  3:22:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
onn the topic of lambos w/ and w/o wings...
6.0 i prefer with out wing
murci i use to perfer with out a wing till a saw this nice pic of a custom black murci in japan, it was sweet, not big and ricy, just low wide and sleek, it matched the car and looked perfectly stock... thats what i like

i do like the 6.0 GTR's look but just for the stock 6.0 i perfer the 'wedge' look of the profile of the car

yea Kael, iv noticed that too... and tried to explain it to some ppl iv seen with riced out civis... but i just get a kinda look like "down force? what? i thaught it added horsepower..."
jeesh


anyway i do love their murci kit lookes great!
as for the 3800 supercharger parts and prices im sure they are ust padding the bill a little, wouldnt suprise me cant really blame him, just trying to make money

MaTT


'96 Jaguar XJ6(burgundy)
'93 Dodge Stealth ES
'83 Jaguar XJ6(hunter)
'80 Mercedes-Benz 300CD
'77 MG B
soon to be mine
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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 23 2004 :  10:29:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope this guys stay in business for awhile i want that SV. Thanks for the info pantera. So if i had jota hood would i get pulled over?? I know where i live the cops probably wouldn't even know what the hell the car was but if i went to a bigger city??

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MaTT869911

USA
243 Posts
Posted - December 23 2004 :  2:22:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nah i surly dont think ud get pulled over just cuz of a hood, they prevent the non road legal cars from being on road by failing to issue them liscnese plates and insuring them, so theoreticly if ur car had a plate on it then theyd know it was road legal, and i doubt any cop would be on the look out for a distinct hood on a late 90s supercar, and then say ahah that car isnt road legal... granted u might get pulled and theyd asked some questions about ur car, and possible ask why its registered as a pontiac (when they run the plates and look at the title and insurance) but thats only if they wernt fullmilliar with kit cars.

but yea i hope they stay in business too, if they dont make the kits (i know they dont produce the F360 they advertise) they have good conections and offer a wide range of not-so-frequently seen models and makes,

Matt

'96 Jaguar XJ6(burgundy)
'93 Dodge Stealth ES
'83 Jaguar XJ6(hunter)
'80 Mercedes-Benz 300CD
'77 MG B
soon to be mine
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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 23 2004 :  3:10:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want that car!! I think i might like donate part of my liver or somthing lol. What is the engine in there kits?? LT1/LS1??? 375hp V8 it says.

I just realised that the car has a power to weight ratio of .179 that is better than.... name/hp/weight/power to weight ratio/0-60/price

Dodge Viper 450 3,320 0.136 4.1 $66,000
Shelby Series 1 320 2,650 0.121 4.4 $108,000
Lotus Esprit V8 350 3,045 0.115 4.4 $83,000
Chevrolet Corvette 345 3,245 0.106 4.8 $42,000
Porsche Carrera 300 2,900 0.103 5.0 $70,000

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JP

Canada
48 Posts
Posted - December 23 2004 :  11:01:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

So how does this calculation work....I have a fiero with a 3800 supercharge...0-60 3.1 sec

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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 24 2004 :  12:32:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your Hp divded by your weight.

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pantera

USA
310 Posts
Posted - December 29 2004 :  11:43:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Cops shouldnt mess with you if your driving a Diablo however you will have to watch for those ricer kids because for some reason or another they believe there riced up civic can take on a Mclaren F1.

BTW that Fiero that does 0-60 in 3.1seconds thats crazy im sure a supercharged V8 will beable to take on a real Murcielago.

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - December 30 2004 :  12:20:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
everyone will want to race you on the road, froms civics,mustangs, to vettes. it will be crazy.

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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 30 2004 :  1:35:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who cares who'd want to race you with a p-to-w ratio like that most if not all things you come across would be a dot in the rearview mirror. Also if ne of you have a Automotive Forums account and would like to give a little lecture goto
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=337144

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ghetto

USA
63 Posts
Posted - December 30 2004 :  9:36:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so what do you say when the cops do stop you? its a kit? do all cops know what the deal is about kits? imagine getting stoped while being wiht a girl on the side and she dont know is a kit and you have to explain the whole deal to them

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RB26DETT


50 Posts
Posted - December 31 2004 :  2:59:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol that would suck. Neway does the ram air hood work if so could it be used to push ari to a top mount intercooler if u went turbo????. Also since it is a tube chassie wouldn't have to apply for a vin?? **to do it perfectly legal**

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - December 31 2004 :  7:23:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

so what do you say when the cops do stop you? its a kit? do all cops know what the deal is about kits? imagine getting stoped while being wiht a girl on the side and she dont know is a kit and you have to explain the whole deal to them




that would suck big time LOL! hey at if you lose her then so what , go down the street and you will have plenty of girls trying to jump in. HA!

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ghetto

USA
63 Posts
Posted - December 31 2004 :  8:46:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol yea it would. so are they legal?

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pantera

USA
310 Posts
Posted - December 31 2004 :  9:01:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well if those highly modfied supras with over 1000bhp are legal then the lambo rep should be. Anyways i really would care because like most street racers im still going to drive my car regardless of what the law says. They get away with there car being 99% illegal so it would a bunch of B.S to a lambo replica be illegal.

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speed356

Mexico
115 Posts
Posted - January 08 2005 :  2:36:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Anybody had luck contacting this company??
Regards
Raùl

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - January 08 2005 :  8:06:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hes on the forum on the other kit car site. the other site has no limits from f's to every other kit topics .

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JP

Canada
48 Posts
Posted - January 08 2005 :  8:47:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
putting a 3800 super charge is prob the best thing I could of done...I also have a couple of other fiero's kicking around and thought about putting a 350 carb in it ? any one done the archie kit ?
would i get as much power as the 3800 ? and do I have to change the whole rear suspension ?

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wireflight


43 Posts
Posted - January 17 2005 :  01:54:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

putting a 3800 super charge is prob the best thing I could of done...I also have a couple of other fiero's kicking around and thought about putting a 350 carb in it ? any one done the archie kit ?
would i get as much power as the 3800 ? and do I have to change the whole rear suspension ?

Building a diablo roadster


Some of this may seem a bit juvenile. It is not my intent to offend, but to provide useful information to everyone that might read this.

If you're asking what I think you're asking, I've seen articles on BOP swaps, iirc, up to 455 CID into a Fiero. These are different engines; I think the Buick was used, but I'm not sure. I've also seen an article on a 415-inch SBC into a Fiero-based kit. I can't remember if the tranny was stock, but if it'll survive, you'd have to really screw up to not make killer power.

With aluminum heads, 87 PON gasoline and a modest ("everyday street use, has to be reliable") build ... with average tuning ... you should be able to get at least 75 horsepower per liter (hp/l) from a naturally-aspirated (USA maker) "pushrod" OHV V8, even if you use a carburetor and a "street" intake manifold instead of fuel injection; for each 2 PON numbers above that, add about 5 hp/l. For iron heads, subtract 10 hp/l. If you're using any sort of sophisticated engine management system -- or supercharging (especially if you include an intercooler) -- these figures can be raised significantly; for instance, the Subaru WRX STi (2.5-liter) makes 300 hp @ 6000 rpm, and 300 lbs-ft @ 4000 rpm, from the factory -- and it weighs a little over 300 lbs. when installed in a buggy.

To figure out how many liters you have, divide your cubic inches by 61.024.

Since we're talking about reciprocating engines: to get your displacement in cubic inches, you'll need to know the bore, the stroke, and the number of cylinders in your engine. This doesn't work for rotaries: they don't use traditional reciprocating pistons.

These steps have to be performed in the order that they are listed:

[1] To save space: any dimension that is expressed in millimeters (mm) should be converted to inches by dividing that number by 25.399.

[2] Divide the bore by 2. Whatever that number is, multiply it by itself. You can do the next few steps in any order you choose:

[3] Multiply that number (the number you got in step [2]) by the stroke. Multiply that number by pi (pi is a constant approximately equal to 3.141562654, but you can round this off to 3.1416 if you like: the results won't be significantly different either way). Multiply that number by the number of cylinders.

Let's imagine that you have a 6-cylinder engine that has a 3.75-inch bore and an 80 mm stroke. Divide 80 by 25.399, so that all the measurements will be in inches. 80 / 25.399 = 3.14973030434269

If you like, for convenience, you can round this off to 3.15 -- but since I didn't go into that, I'll use the figure as it appears. Remember, this is the stroke.

Dividing the bore by 2 gives us 1.875 -- which we multiply by itself:
1.875 x 1.875 = 3.515625

We multiply this number by the stroke:
3.515625 x 3.14973030434269 = 11.0732706012048

We multiply this number by pi, and since I haven't been rounding things off so far, I'm going to use the 3.1416 figure for convenience:
11.0732706012048 x 3.1416 = 34.7877869207449

We multiply this number by the number of cylinders:
34.7877869207449 x 6 = 208.726721524469

The engine has a displacement of approximately 208.726721524469 CID.

Rounding this off, we see that it's a "209-CID" engine. It doesn't matter if the cylinders are arranged inline or in a "V" or if they are horizontally opposed or if they are in some other configuration: the displacement is the same -- whether it's a "two stroke" or a "four stroke."

If we want to know how many liters this is, we divide the CID by 61.024. So that you can see how little difference the rounding makes at this point, I'll show it both ways:
208.726721524469 / 61.024 = 3.42040380054518 liters
209 / 61.024 = 3.42488201363398 liters

Either way, you're looking at a 3.42-liter (or a "3.4-liter") engine.

If you follow the preceding guidelines and use at least 89 PON gasoline, you're looking at a streetable 80 hp/l with aluminum heads.
3.42 x 80 = 273.6 horsepower

Taking the 10 hp/l penalty for using iron heads lowers the specific output to 70 hp/l.
3.42 x 70 = 239.4 horsepower

The most common variety of 350 SBC, also known as a "5.7 liter" engine, has 349.81 CID, or 5.732 liters. With aluminum heads, figure on 430 horsepower using 87 PON gasoline; if you can guarantee that your PON will not fall below 93, you can build for 516 horsepower.

Note: the Btu content of gasoline is the same regardless of the octane rating; higher octane will not give you more power: the octane number is inversely proportional to the tendency of the fuel to cause detonation when subjected to prescribed test conditions. At the risk of oversimplification, higher octane allows other tuning and engineering methods to be employed, which methods may result in higher power.

If I find anything on the swaps online, I'll try to remember to post it here.

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doobie


39 Posts
Posted - January 26 2005 :  03:39:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats a real Mucielago that being converted in to a roadster. this is the kit. www.exoticreplicasusa.com/page4.html" target="_blank">http://www.exoticreplicasusa.com/page4.html cant really tell how good it is, unless they finish it and put on some real muci mags.

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TruePatriot


46 Posts
Posted - February 09 2005 :  6:14:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah... you need to read the top of the page. That is a real Lambo. The kit sucks.

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kitcarguy15


199 Posts
Posted - February 17 2005 :  10:57:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the link is the kit, which is the best looking rep so far, from the roof lines to the back lights of the car. but they are also working on a real murci to convert it to a roadster version .

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kitcars360

Germany
129 Posts
Posted - July 10 2005 :  2:51:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are pictures from Germany!

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Greetings from Germany

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