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BajaLightning

USA
76 Posts
Posted - January 20 2004 :  9:19:18 PM  Show Profile
I'm trying to get a feel for what others think of an idea I've been playing with. Picture a 1999-2004 Ford Mustang, then cut the body just behind the front seats and extend the wheelbase about 6". Then put in a firewall behind the front row of seats and drop in a 4.6L or 5.4L modular engine with proably a porsche transaxle. Kind of a poor man's Ford GT. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Only Little Boys Wear Bowties

Dream Car:

2005 Ford GT
SHM 5.4L HiPo Aluminum Block, Stage III ported DOHC heads, custom internals, intake, and cams
Turbodepot Twin Turbo Kit
Weismann 7-speed Transaxle

2500hp Ford GT

SCARRY...BUT SWEET

meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - January 21 2004 :  9:04:21 PM  Show Profile
quote:
BajaLightning wrote:
I'm trying to get a feel for what others think of an idea I've been playing with. Picture a 1999-2004 Ford Mustang, then cut the body just behind the front seats and extend the wheelbase about 6". Then put in a firewall behind the front row of seats and drop in a 4.6L or 5.4L modular engine with proably a porsche transaxle. Kind of a poor man's Ford GT. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

The Mustang is a unibody vehicle, you can't stretch it.

The engine by itself is 27" long - without accessories. The adapter for the transaxle adds even more length, and then you have to contend with the length of the transaxle, not to mention where the axles actually are located.

Picture a 1999-2004 Mustang. Now cut the body just behind the front seat. You now have a worthless pile of scrap. Kind of a poor man's automotive abortion.

Your pal,
Meat.

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Admin

USA
224 Posts
Posted - January 22 2004 :  07:24:58 AM  Show Profile
If you have a welder and correct materials, you could do it. It would be easier to weld up a frame/chassis than to use the Mustang.

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BajaLightning

USA
76 Posts
Posted - January 22 2004 :  1:13:57 PM  Show Profile
Yea, thats along the lines of what I was thinking of. If you watch Monster Garage it would be like what they did to the Toyota Celica/Jet Car. I think it would be cool to do, but not the easiest thing in the world.

Only Little Boys Wear Bowties

Dream Car:

2005 Ford GT
SHM 5.4L HiPo Aluminum Block, Stage III ported DOHC heads, custom internals, intake, and cams
Turbodepot Twin Turbo Kit
Weismann 7-speed Transaxle

2500hp Ford GT

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QKracha


90 Posts
Posted - January 22 2004 :  2:41:47 PM  Show Profile
quote:

The Mustang is a unibody vehicle, you can't stretch it.


The Fiero is a unibody too and everybody stretch it.
It seems easier to build a frame than to stretch such a car but...


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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - January 22 2004 :  4:05:52 PM  Show Profile
quote:
QKracha wrote:
The Fiero is a unibody too and everybody stretch it.
It seems easier to build a frame than to stretch such a car but...

The Fiero has a space frame, not a unibody.

Your pal,
Meat.

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Admin

USA
224 Posts
Posted - January 25 2004 :  08:00:53 AM  Show Profile
All the other unrelated replies have been deleted.

Reasonable people form their ideas to fit the world.
Unreasonable people form the world to fit their ideas.
Therefore, all progress is made by unreasonable people.

You don't have to be an engineer to make stuff and theres nothing wrong with asking questions and thinking.

So f*** all you who sh** on people.

Go ahead BajaLightning and keep the ideas flowing.

The rest of you keep your mouths shut if you don't have anything constructive to say.

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - January 25 2004 :  08:53:53 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Mitch wrote:
If you have a welder and correct materials, you could do it. It would be easier to weld up a frame/chassis than to use the Mustang.

No you can't.

It would not be easier by any stretch. It still would require an engineer.

Your pal,
Meat.

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Admin

USA
224 Posts
Posted - January 25 2004 :  09:07:12 AM  Show Profile
Yes, you can and it would be easier. You said yourself that it couldn't be done the other way. You really just sound like a engineer who's afraid of losing his job or looking for freelance work.

I just deleted you newest unrelated reply, and once again you were changing the subject of the topic. You obviously misread my post so I'll point out the part you missed: I said "all progress is made by unreasonaable people", not "all unreasonable people make progress".

It's not a thrashing forum, it's a kit car forum.

I also deleted about 15 of your replies throughout the forum and all the crap they triggered that had absolutely nothing to add the the conversation other than putting people down and name calling.

There's a difference between censoring and keeping replies relevent.

You wanna help people, go ahead. You wanna slam people, go somewhere else. That goes for ANYONE posting here.

Here's the pattern:
Someone posts a topic
Someone replies
A thrid person posts a distasteful reply
The next 30 replies have nothing to do with the original topic
The topic is dead
It happens in 30 other topics
The forum is dead

It's really very simple, if you can help then do it.
If you can't then go on to the next topic.
If you want to make it more complicated, don't come back.

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BajaLightning

USA
76 Posts
Posted - January 25 2004 :  5:05:57 PM  Show Profile
THANK YOU ADMIN, you are a really good man

Only Little Boys Wear Bowties

Dream Car:

2005 Ford GT
SHM 5.4L HiPo Aluminum Block, Stage III ported DOHC heads, custom internals, intake, and cams
Turbodepot Twin Turbo Kit
Weismann 7-speed Transaxle

2500hp Ford GT

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meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - January 26 2004 :  12:03:59 PM  Show Profile
No, you cannot, and no, it would not be easier by any stretch (no pun intented) of the imagination. I did say that it could not be done any other way, I didn't say that it would be easier. It would still require an engineer, a whole lot of measuring, and in the end just wouldn't be worth it; you're no longer stretching a Mustang, you're building a complete custom car.

As far as your accusing me of being an engineer whose afraid of losing his job or looking for freelance work...gosh, Mitch, that sounds like you're bashing others. You said yourself "You wanna slam people, go somewhere else. That goes for ANYONE posting here." So where are you going to go to post now?

Your pal,
Meat.


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Admin

USA
224 Posts
Posted - January 26 2004 :  1:31:18 PM  Show Profile
Engineer has never been a slur, you are being ridiculous and I'm tired of wasting my breath.

I'm sorry, maybe you were speaking from your past experience of never being able to do anything without an engineer. I may have misunderstood. Just because you can't do something without an enginner doesn't mean that nobody else can. You are not the final word on anything except your own experience. Instead of saying "it can't be done", how about "go for it, I hope you make it work and I'd like to see it when your done".

I wonder, if you have kids, how enjoyable it would be to be told that you can never do anything on your own.
"Hey dad, lets build a teeter-totter" "Can't"
"Hey dad, lets build a clubhouse" "Can't"
"Hey dad, lets build a go-kart" "Can't"

You must be a ton of fun to hang out with.

I'm done with this post and so are you.

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