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Mattsk8
37 Posts |
 Posted - November 24 2003 : 6:43:33 PM
Who makes the best replice of the VT ROADSTER DIABLO LAMBO i want like the yellow and black like the 1999's i heard 12 cylinders were really good could anyone help me out with a website for them or phone number thanks alot or any others u would know of thanks ya'll MATT |
BajaLightning
USA
76 Posts |
Posted - November 25 2003 : 10:16:29 PM
North American Exotic Replica Cars makes the absolute best Diablo VT Roadster out there. www.naerc.com Voted the most exact replica at the Berry Knot festival. Their kits are fairly expensivebut it's worth it for the exactness of the kit. They also have a Replica Chassis avaliable, also expensive, but it is exact. About $30,000 for a complete replica chassis, exterior, interior, everything except engine, tranny, paint, and upolstery. V12 would be the way to go, but you would have to find one, with all the wiring and computer. A wrecked BMW is the way to go, since the BMW V12 is the same engine that Lambo uses. There is also a performance market for them which makes it easier to go all out on a replica. The stock engine has over 300hp in the first place. It is really cool, but hard to do. An slightly easier idea is an inline six with a split exhaust so it sounds more like a v12. A 2JZ out of a Supra is ideal, but any I6 would work.
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deleteall
55 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 12:49:57 AM
"A wrecked BMW is the way to go, since the BMW V12 is the same engine that Lambo uses"HUH, really?
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4.3L
USA
58 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 07:24:44 AM
I forgot what year bmw's and model was it that had the v-12 remeber seeing one in a junk yard one time
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Janezzz
68 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 09:30:22 AM
quote:
North American Exotic Replica Cars makes the absolute best Diablo VT Roadster out there.
That statement is unfortunately false. The most exact Diablo roadster replica kit is produced by Handcrafted Cars Ltd. (in England). The molds for it were taken directly off a real Diablo roadster (same thing that Parallel Design did with their Torrero S/GT/GTR (VT/SV/GT style in reality)).
How to support such a statement? Easy, just take a look at the pictures of N.A.E.R.C.'s roadster (the silver one for example). The area between rear air intakes (ones over the rear wheels) and rear lights is completely flat while real Diablo roadster (and HandCrafted Cars' roadster replica as well) has this surface nicely curved. By the way, I have noticed that cars of every single manufacturer of Diablo Roadster replicas in USA have this flaw (the same original molds perhaps ?).
Apart from that, the side mirrors don't look right - they look something like those from I.F.G.'s Phantom 6.0 - sticking way too up instead of being straight (N.A.E.R.C. tried to fix this problem by breaking the line of the mirror at the joint, but it just doesen't look right).
Don't get me wrong, N.A.E.R.C. is a great, reliable company that has absolutely the best Diablo VT/SV/30th Anniversary Edition/6.0 replicas available, but as much as roadster is concerned, theirs is nothing more than average (for instance a company called Top Gun makes diablo roadsters (just as good looking as those from N.A.E.R.C.)
which cost only 4.750$ (fiberglass body kit) istead of 9.000$). However, I completely agree about the drivetrain - BMW V12 is the way to go (here in Europe you can buy undamaged 1987-1989 BMW 750i for as little as one grand!).
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skratedaddydollars
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 10:51:50 AM
A friend of mine has a 8 series BMW that is a 93 that also has a v12 in it. Hope that helpsskrat daddy dollars |
meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 2:34:05 PM
quote:
Janezzz wrote:
quote:
North American Exotic Replica Cars makes the absolute best Diablo VT Roadster out there.
That statement is unfortunately false. The most exact Diablo roadster replica kit is produced by Handcrafted Cars Ltd. (in England). The molds for it were taken directly off a real Diablo roadster (same thing that Parallel Design did with their Torrero S/GT/GTR (VT/SV/GT style in reality)).
How to support such a statement? Easy, just take a look at the pictures of N.A.E.R.C.'s roadster (the silver one for example). The area between rear air intakes (ones over the rear wheels) and rear lights is completely flat while real Diablo roadster (and HandCrafted Cars' roadster replica as well) has this surface nicely curved. By the way, I have noticed that cars of every single manufacturer of Diablo Roadster replicas in USA have this flaw (the same original molds perhaps ?).
Apart from that, the side mirrors don't look right - they look something like those from I.F.G.'s Phantom 6.0 - sticking way too up instead of being straight (N.A.E.R.C. tried to fix this problem by breaking the line of the mirror at the joint, but it just doesen't look right).
Don't get me wrong, N.A.E.R.C. is a great, reliable company that has absolutely the best Diablo VT/SV/30th Anniversary Edition/6.0 replicas available, but as much as roadster is concerned, theirs is nothing more than average (for instance a company called Top Gun makes diablo roadsters (just as good looking as those from N.A.E.R.C.)
which cost only 4.750$ (fiberglass body kit) istead of 9.000$). However, I completely agree about the drivetrain - BMW V12 is the way to go (here in Europe you can buy undamaged 1987-1989 BMW 750i for as little as one grand!).
Hmmm... I fail to see how "best" equates with "exact." I do not believe that the statement made by BajaLightning was in any way false. Just trying to clear the air up a bit... Your pal,
Meat.
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skratedaddydollars
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 9:48:18 PM
Does this place in England you speak of have web site?
skrat daddy dollars
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360Wanna_be
375 Posts |
Posted - November 26 2003 : 11:36:58 PM
http://www.powerhousesports.net/kit/roadster.htma gorgeous Orange Roadster www.powerhousesports.net |
Janezzz
68 Posts |
Posted - November 27 2003 : 05:04:23 AM
Hand Crafted Cars' website (however I don't know why they haven't updated it with their new roadster yet): http://www.handcraftedcars.comPictures of their roadster can be found here:
http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openalbum.cfm?GID=1853634&AlbumID=3117289 And by the way dear Mr.Administrator / Meat, BajaLightning obviously considered N.A.E.R.C.'s roadster to be the "the most exact replica at the Berry Knot festival" , so don't tell me that for a replica exactness doesen't represent a major aspect of being "the best". A replica that costs $65.000 or even more and is not perfectly exact can not be (at least in my opinion) " the absolute best Diablo VT Roadster out there".
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meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 27 2003 : 09:51:10 AM
quote:
Janezzz wrote
Hand Crafted Cars' website (however I don't know why they haven't updated it with their new roadster yet): http://www.handcraftedcars.comPictures of their roadster can be found here:
http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openalbum.cfm?GID=1853634&AlbumID=3117289 And by the way dear Mr.Administrator / Meat, BajaLightning obviously considered N.A.E.R.C.'s roadster to be the "the most exact replica at the Berry Knot festival" , so don't tell me that for a replica exactness doesen't represent a major aspect of being "the best". A replica that costs $65.000 or even more and is not perfectly exact can not be (at least in my opinion) " the absolute best Diablo VT Roadster out there".
You're arguing from a position of weakness, Janezzz; you don't know what other replicas were at the ... "Berry Knot" festival. Lucky for me, I actually was at the Knotts Berry Farm show. I got to see the cars, I checked out - in detail the NAERC chassis, asked questions, and compared the cars. I happen to know what the competition was. I will tell you that 'exactness' doesn't represent a major aspect of being the best. Buildability is a major aspect of being the best. Tech support is a major aspect of being the best. Completeness of the kit and accessability to parts is a major aspect of being the best. Exactness is waaaaaaay down on the list of being the best, and is certainly not a major aspect of being the best. A $65K replica that is built well, holds up well, is driveable, fools everyone but the idiot snobs that couldn't afford the real thing (much less the replica in question) anyway, are worth every penny of the asking price. Your pal,
Meat.
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skratedaddydollars
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - November 27 2003 : 6:14:07 PM
That place in England makes ****y cars compared to some of the builders that i have seen. I would never buy a car from that place. The interior looks like crap, and the body is not even that good. And the replica rims should be about an inch or two largerskrat daddy dollars |
Janezzz
68 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 06:13:56 AM
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I will tell you that 'exactness' doesn't represent a major aspect of being the best. Buildability is a major aspect of being the best. Tech support is a major aspect of being the best. Completeness of the kit and accessability to parts is a major aspect of being the best. Exactness is waaaaaaay down on the list of being the best, and is certainly not a major aspect of being the best.
Excuse me, but what does the word REPLICA mean? A look-alike with good handling, easy maintenance and good technical support??? No it means a copy of the original, a CLOSE COPY. So if you are building a copy of an original car (Diablo in this case) it is very much clear that the closer you get to the original, the better. All other aspects that were stated here are important as well, that can not be denied, but I still believe that "exactness" is the essence of a "replica". But in the end it doesen't really matter what each one of us thinks, everyone interested in buying a kit should have a close look at it in person before buying it anyway. What is much more obvious here is the fact that some people on this forum have serious problems when it comes to tolerating other people's opinions (it looks like dear Mr. Meat has done a good job cleaning "everywhere else but at his own doorway..."). As it has turned out already many times in the past, Meat conducts personal attacks on other members (calling me an idiot snob in this case) sometimes just because he wants to prove that only he is right or sometimes even without any reason at all (let's just remeber that "little argument" between Meat and Shaddoe...). I don't want to participate in the shouting match that will most certanly follow this post, but I would like to say that I agree with BajaLightning - N.A.E.R.C. does make great cars - no doubt about it.
But if Meat thinks I'm an idiot just because I have pointed out a few (minor, I admit) flaws in their roadsters design, then he has proven nothing else but being an idiot himself.
P.S.: skratedaddydollars, I agree that interior doesen't look all its best, but an accurate shifter, steering wheel and instrument cluster would make it look much better. And this items are all replaceable, so no tragedy there either. The rims are already 17" if I am not mistaken, and they can only get one inch bigger anyway (that would also enforce use of extremely low profile tyres as well (35mm rear and only 30mm at the front - source Parallel Design)).
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meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 08:54:57 AM
quote:
Janezzz wrote:
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I will tell you that 'exactness' doesn't represent a major aspect of being the best. Buildability is a major aspect of being the best. Tech support is a major aspect of being the best. Completeness of the kit and accessability to parts is a major aspect of being the best. Exactness is waaaaaaay down on the list of being the best, and is certainly not a major aspect of being the best.
Excuse me, but what does the word REPLICA mean? A look-alike with good handling, easy maintenance and good technical support??? No it means a copy of the original, a CLOSE COPY. So if you are building a copy of an original car (Diablo in this case) it is very much clear that the closer you get to the original, the better. All other aspects that were stated here are important as well, that can not be denied, but I still believe that "exactness" is the essence of a "replica". But in the end it doesen't really matter what each one of us thinks, everyone interested in buying a kit should have a close look at it in person before buying it anyway. What is much more obvious here is the fact that some people on this forum have serious problems when it comes to tolerating other people's opinions (it looks like dear Mr. Meat has done a good job cleaning "everywhere else but at his own doorway..."). As it has turned out already many times in the past, Meat conducts personal attacks on other members (calling me an idiot snob in this case) sometimes just because he wants to prove that only he is right or sometimes even without any reason at all (let's just remeber that "little argument" between Meat and Shaddoe...). I don't want to participate in the shouting match that will most certanly follow this post, but I would like to say that I agree with BajaLightning - N.A.E.R.C. does make great cars - no doubt about it.
But if Meat thinks I'm an idiot just because I have pointed out a few (minor, I admit) flaws in their roadsters design, then he has proven nothing else but being an idiot himself.
P.S.: skratedaddydollars, I agree that interior doesen't look all its best, but an accurate shifter, steering wheel and instrument cluster would make it look much better. And this items are all replaceable, so no tragedy there either. The rims are already 17" if I am not mistaken, and they can only get one inch bigger anyway (that would also enforce use of extremely low profile tyres as well (35mm rear and only 30mm at the front - source Parallel Design)).
I'm glad that you did finally decide to start asking the right questions, that shows you're finally accepting that you do not know exactly what you're talking about. The first step to knowledge is to stop talking about things you don't know, and start listening to people who do know.
The word replica means copy, pure and simple. The definition doesn't include "close" at all; this isn't horseshoes or hand grenades. Using the word in relation to a hand-crafted car that is made from parts that may be part of a kit is just a nicer way of saying "kit car." And a kit car that is made to resemble a production car is nothing more than a copy that generally follows the same lines as the original car. The words you're looking for are "authentic reproduction," which are usually used in conjunction with the words "licensed by." And getting "closer to the original" doesn't in any way imply "better" at all. "Exactness" isn't related to "replica" as it applies to kit cars at all. Now, moving on to what is "much more obvious," I think that someone seems to have become blind. In fact, Janezzz, it appears that you aren't even cognizant of what you've written in this thread here. The person who has problems with tolerating opinions is YOU, Janezzz. Perhaps you missed the post in which someone stated that another person's opinion was "unfortunately false." I would imagine that it would be hard to miss such a post, since you're the person who wrote it, thus showing a low tolerance for the opinions of others. And then, Janezzz, you proceeded to attack me, after I failed to see how exact equated to best. And then you attack me again - and from a position of weakness, no less. And then you attacked me again for posting my opinion. The person, Janezz, attacking others here is you not me. You are the one who is showing a low tolerance for other people's opinions. I can completely understand why someone like you wouldn't want to "participate in the shouting match" that would inevitably follow your continued attacks on other members of this board; you're clearly not able to sustain any type of attack position when you know so little about the subject you're talking about. It's interesting to see you backpedal and switch gears so quickly from the stance that you took earlier in this thread. And to clear the air, I don't think you're an idiot for the reasons you stated. I think you're an idiot because you don't know what you're talking about. I do not have a low tolerance for the opinions of others, I have (as I have stated before) a low tolerance for stupidity - which you are doing a bang-up job of demonstrating for everyone to see. To illustrate that, let's include some quotes (quotes are always fun): quote:
Janezzz wrote:
The most exact Diablo roadster replica kit is produced by Handcrafted Cars Ltd. (in England).
quote:
Janezzz wrote:
skratedaddydollars, I agree that interior doesen't look all its best, but an accurate shifter, steering wheel and instrument cluster would make it look much better.
quote:
Janezzz wrote:
The rims are already 17" if I am not mistaken
Hmmm. Call me wacky, but it's hard to be the "most exact" when the car isn't the "most exact." And, not being one to split hairs at all ... But looking at the two Lamborghini Roadsters down here at the local Lamborghini shop (God I love living in Newport Beach!), I can't help but notice that they have 18" wheels. Your pal,
Meat. |
moab2
90 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 09:24:56 AM
I can't believe the moderator is allowing this to go on......oh, wait... that IS the moderator!
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meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 10:19:35 AM
quote:
moab2 wrote:
I can't believe the moderator is allowing this to go on......oh, wait... that IS the moderator!
Wow. You're not very good at reading or comprehension, are you? Your pal,
Meat.
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Janezzz
68 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 11:11:49 AM
Although I said I won't participate in this shouting match, I would like to make some things clear:quote:
The word replica means copy, pure and simple. The definition doesn't include "close" at all; this isn't horseshoes or hand grenades. Using the word in relation to a hand-crafted car that is made from parts that may be part of a kit is just a nicer way of saying "kit car." And a kit car that is made to resemble a production car is nothing more than a copy that generally follows the same lines as the original car.
- First of all about a word REPLICA (the following text was taken from Random House Webster's College Dictionary - Meat, if you think you know better than that, you really are helpless...): replica - n., pl. -cas 1. a copy or reproduction of a work of art produced or supervised by the maker of the original.
2. any close copy or reproduction Please correct me if I'm wrong, I thought that builders of replicas want their cars to looks as "authentic" as possible. So it is only logical conclusion: more exact, the better.
quote:
And then you attacked me again for posting my opinion. The person, Janezz, attacking others here is you not me. You are the one who is showing a low tolerance for other people's opinions.
So by your respected opinion I am the one lacking tolerance for other people's opinions. It is pretty obvious (from my previous posts as well) that I have allways tried to be polite towards all members on this forum. I simply stated my point of view and you, Meat, immediately called me an idiot (much less do I see any cause for calling me a snob).
It is quite strange, if I am as stupid as you say, why didn't you say that on any of earlier threads; oh yes I almost forgot you call only those who disagree with you stupid. And when I had the same opinion as you (Specialty Atoworks thread for instance) I was O.K.? I may be blind as you suggest, but you obviously don't understand everything you read so let me fresh up your memory:
quote:
Perhaps you missed the post in which someone stated that another person's opinion was "unfortunately false."
I didn't say that his opinion was false since opinions can not be false because they are completely subjective, everyone is in title to one. What I actually said was that (I believed that) one particular statement was false. Read it a few more times, you just might get it ... And finnaly you claim I am an idiot because I don't know what I am talking about. So you deny that all previously mentioned (by me) differences between N.A.E.R.C.'s roadster and real Diablo roadster exist ?!? That was, if by any chance you were unable to comprehend, the essence of my post on this thread. You also poorly argument why I am an idiot. You imply I am in contradiction with myself when I say: The most exact Diablo roadster replica kit is produced by Handcrafted Cars Ltd. (in England). and at the same time: I agree that interior doesen't look all its best, but an accurate shifter, steering wheel and instrument cluster would make it look much better. What you obviously forgot is the fact that those interior items are free to be chosen by the builder himself. If he likes, he can use 17" or 18" rims, original or only similar shifter, steering wheel and instrument cluster,... The important thing is that the body looks right, since an average builder would have hard time fixing any flaws in that area. And finnaly I must say it is really sad that this kind of behaviour by you, Meat, continues, what is even worse it was once tolerated by the former administrator (Mitch), but now there is no way to stop meat's numerous insults of other members on this forum.
Any further posting would most probaby be of no good use, since it's obvious that Meat prefers personal attacks/insults over hepling other people with productive discussion.
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Viking
Sweden
44 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 3:04:19 PM
Hey Meat!I must agree with Janezzz. You are pretty enoying. I have spent a while doing research for my project, and every time i find something interesting, guess who´s there? I´m looking for information about my hobby, not line after line with personal attacks. I´ve been a guest at your site and it pretty clear that you have a great knowledge, but why so bitter and hostile? Everybody has the right to an oppinion and it does´nt have to be the same as yours. Please use your knowledge in a more humble way and we can all have a high quality conversation. The Viking |
meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 3:34:29 PM
quote:
Viking wrote:
I must agree with Janezzz. You are pretty enoying. I have spent a while doing research for my project, and every time i find something interesting, guess who´s there? I´m looking for information about my hobby, not line after line with personal attacks. I´ve been a guest at your site and it pretty clear that you have a great knowledge, but why so bitter and hostile? Everybody has the right to an oppinion and it does´nt have to be the same as yours. Please use your knowledge in a more humble way and we can all have a high quality conversation.
I have no idea what the word 'enoying' means. As far as this being your hobby, I believe that you're ego is writing checks that reality isn't going to cash; it's not your hobby at all, it belongs to everyone who enjoys cars. Everyone does indeed have a right to an opinion, and yours is obviously wrong. I'll use my knowledge in any way I choose to, and I have no intention of using it to be humble - because there is no cause to be humble when I'm obviously way smarter than alot of people. I ain't gonna hide my light under a bushel. There's no reason to. Your pal,
Meat.
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moab2
90 Posts |
Posted - November 28 2003 : 11:25:29 PM
quote:
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moab2 wrote:
I can't believe the moderator is allowing this to go on......oh, wait... that IS the moderator!
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Wow. You're not very good at reading or comprehension, are you?
Your pal,
Meat.
Wow. You're not very good at witty come-backs, are you?
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meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 29 2003 : 09:47:55 AM
quote:
moab2 wrote:
Wow. You're not very good at witty come-backs, are you?
I'm terrific at witty comebacks...but I don't waste them on idiots lilke you. Your pal,
Meat.
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moab2
90 Posts |
Posted - November 29 2003 : 10:44:12 PM
quote:
I'm terrific at witty comebacks...but I don't waste them on idiots lilke you.Your pal,
Meat.
I'm not sure what lilke is...
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meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 30 2003 : 08:19:36 AM
quote:
]b]moab2 wrote:[/b]
I'm not sure what lilke is...
Oh don't stop there, wackamole...you're not sure about alot of things. You just like to come here and attack other people. That's the only way you can get people to talk to you. Sure must be lonely being you... Your pal,
Meat.
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shaddoe
113 Posts |
Posted - November 30 2003 : 1:39:26 PM
i think maybe everyone should ask matt what he means by "best kit". everyone has a opinion but lets not try to make our opinion into fact. if the definition of replica is as stated by janezzz is true then you would have to take into consideration every aspect of the car and not just the outer body lines. in my opinion the best replica kit would not be one that is an exact exterior copy and the rest be sub par. fiberglass quality also has a lot to do with it also, i have always stated in my opinion the naerc and d&r have the best kits, having visited dale's shop in austin, tx. i can say that although their chassis is first class and the pics of the 6.0 look great on the computer the fiberglass quality "in my opinion" is not as good as d&r. that does not change my opinion about them still be at the top of the industry though because their completeness of their kit and close to accurate lines make them one of the best. after looking at handcrafters website i see that the purple, red and blue car are either ifg kits or copies of ifg kits. the pics that i've seen of parallel design are probably the most accurate exterior copy of the lambo to date. i've had people as me if this picture http://www.exoticglass1.com/images/ROADSTER%20ON%20THE%20MOVE2.jpg is of a real car because of the profile of the rear of the car as compared to the front, the thing that makes the back look soo wide as compared to the front is the way the picture was taken and everyone tells me that all the other kits on the net don't look the same but its all perspective or how you look at it. first let me point a few things out, the front round fog lights on the orange car are not oem style, the rectangular fog lights should be rounded on the sides but in this case are square, the side skirts are not as deep as the real car and the front bumper is lower to the ground than the real car but i still get people that ask if it were a real car. there are some things in the d&r that make me feel like its the best kit but my perspective is as that of a builder so i'm looking at the ease of building and also the finish look of the car. after looking at the naerc i feel that the d&r is a more builder friendly car but i won't say that the d&r is the most accurate to the origional because there are things in every kit that you must consider. there is a company in the us that also copied the real car panel for panel, i won't name them but if you're really into kitcars you know who i'm talking about, the reason i won't name them is because of their business practices and i won't promote anyone that will rip customers off, so is their kit one of the best since its a exact copy of the real car? my last comment is on the v12, "in my opinion" the v8 is a better choice. why, because the v8 has the same stock hp and torque as the v12 and is much less expensive to up the horse power with after market parts. either way you go you will end up using one of the same transaxles out there because you can use a lamborghini tranny because there actually isn't one because parts of the lambo tranny are built into the engine and also the bmw v12 has to be turned around and face forward to work as compared to a lambo faced backwards. this again is my opinion and others feel just the opposite as me thats their choice but i won't build a replica with the v12 because i just don't feel the work and cost justifies using it over the v8, am i supposed to use it because of the look? well if you're so worried about the look use one of the replicated engine covers because if you're looking to fool anyone the people that really know lamborghini motors will know that the bmw is not the real lambo engine, i find it easy to tell from looking at them. is it the sound? well sorry to bst anyone's bubble but the bmw v12 doesn't sound like the real thing either. remember, no matter how strongly you feel about your opinion it doesn't make it fact, its still just your opinion so before saying that someone has" the best replica" maybe try to find out what the member is really asking for, i think meat is right is what he is saying and janezzz is looking at it from his perspective but won't consider that his opinion is not what matt is asking about, maybe its not just the exactness of the exterior of the car.www.exoticglass1.com |
meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - November 30 2003 : 5:48:35 PM
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shaddoe wrote:
i think maybe everyone should ask matt what he means by "best kit". everyone has a opinion but lets not try to make our opinion into fact. if the definition of replica is as stated by janezzz is true then you would have to take into consideration every aspect of the car and not just the outer body lines. in my opinion the best replica kit would not be one that is an exact exterior copy and the rest be sub par. fiberglass quality also has a lot to do with it also, i have always stated in my opinion the naerc and d&r have the best kits, having visited dale's shop in austin, tx. i can say that although their chassis is first class and the pics of the 6.0 look great on the computer the fiberglass quality "in my opinion" is not as good as d&r. that does not change my opinion about them still be at the top of the industry though because their completeness of their kit and close to accurate lines make them one of the best. after looking at handcrafters website i see that the purple, red and blue car are either ifg kits or copies of ifg kits. the pics that i've seen of parallel design are probably the most accurate exterior copy of the lambo to date. i've had people as me if this picture http://www.exoticglass1.com/images/ROADSTER%20ON%20THE%20MOVE2.jpg is of a real car because of the profile of the rear of the car as compared to the front, the thing that makes the back look soo wide as compared to the front is the way the picture was taken and everyone tells me that all the other kits on the net don't look the same but its all perspective or how you look at it. first let me point a few things out, the front round fog lights on the orange car are not oem style, the rectangular fog lights should be rounded on the sides but in this case are square, the side skirts are not as deep as the real car and the front bumper is lower to the ground than the real car but i still get people that ask if it were a real car. there are some things in the d&r that make me feel like its the best kit but my perspective is as that of a builder so i'm looking at the ease of building and also the finish look of the car. after looking at the naerc i feel that the d&r is a more builder friendly car but i won't say that the d&r is the most accurate to the origional because there are things in every kit that you must consider. there is a company in the us that also copied the real car panel for panel, i won't name them but if you're really into kitcars you know who i'm talking about, the reason i won't name them is because of their business practices and i won't promote anyone that will rip customers off, so is their kit one of the best since its a exact copy of the real car? my last comment is on the v12, "in my opinion" the v8 is a better choice. why, because the v8 has the same stock hp and torque as the v12 and is much less expensive to up the horse power with after market parts. either way you go you will end up using one of the same transaxles out there because you can use a lamborghini tranny because there actually isn't one because parts of the lambo tranny are built into the engine and also the bmw v12 has to be turned around and face forward to work as compared to a lambo faced backwards. this again is my opinion and others feel just the opposite as me thats their choice but i won't build a replica with the v12 because i just don't feel the work and cost justifies using it over the v8, am i supposed to use it because of the look? well if you're so worried about the look use one of the replicated engine covers because if you're looking to fool anyone the people that really know lamborghini motors will know that the bmw is not the real lambo engine, i find it easy to tell from looking at them. is it the sound? well sorry to bst anyone's bubble but the bmw v12 doesn't sound like the real thing either. remember, no matter how strongly you feel about your opinion it doesn't make it fact, its still just your opinion so before saying that someone has" the best replica" maybe try to find out what the member is really asking for, i think meat is right is what he is saying and janezzz is looking at it from his perspective but won't consider that his opinion is not what matt is asking about, maybe its not just the exactness of the exterior of the car.www.exoticglass1.com
I concur. Your pal,
Meat. P.S. I think it's frightening when shaddoe's posts are longer than mine.
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maron
USA
50 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 07:03:28 AM
It's even more frightening when meat concurs with shaddoe, and posts that meeting of minds.God bless... |
n/a
126 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 11:40:58 AM
I have to agree with Shaddoe. D&R And NAERC is the 2 best replicas, I have seen. Everyone always has something to say about their replicas and how their's are better. and how other companys are not good. I have doen enough research to know which companies are good and those that suxxx. You can always gurantee a nice customer service from NAERC and D&R with a nicest kits.
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lamborghinidad
63 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 1:15:43 PM
You pay for what you get. Exotic Dream Builders (Texas) is putting together a turnkey 6.0 with an exact frame, body, new corvette crate engine, etc. provided by NAERC, They even are grinding off the corvette stamping on the disc brakes and replacing with the Bebo stamping. Price around $95,000.
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lamborghinidad
63 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 1:19:20 PM
Correction -- It looks like, in my previous post, that the corvette engine came from NAERC, this obviously is not the case.
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skratedaddydollars
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 3:38:49 PM
IILeoII Can you post some websites for these replicas you speak of? skrat daddy dollars |
360Wanna_be
375 Posts |
Posted - December 01 2003 : 6:42:30 PM
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I have to agree with Shaddoe. D&R And NAERC is the 2 best replicas, I have seen. Everyone always has something to say about their replicas and how their's are better. and how other companys are not good. I have doen enough research to know which companies are good and those that suxxx. You can always gurantee a nice customer service from NAERC and D&R with a nicest kits.
This is quite true, To take this point even further, i have spoken with bothe NAERC and D&R. From my experience they both respect each other in the business and speak positively about each other. Regardless of wich company (of the 2) you go with... I think you'll be in great company. www.powerhousesports.net |
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