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pea

New Zealand
54 Posts
Posted - October 10 2003 :  03:58:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

I'm having a hard time trying to find info on the mr2 (not kits, the car itself). I am planning to build a concept-type car based on the mr2 chassis. I don't own an mr2, this car was only chosen because its compact and mid engined, and relatively cheap as a donor. Does anyone have comments on the following:

1) Is the mr2 suitable to build a new body shell from the chassis up? I have been told not in the past because its a monocogue and doesnt have a chassis as such. Could I build a spaceframe based on the suspension/steering etc of the mr2?

2) If the mr2 is unsuitable, does anyone else recommend a good donor car thats: compact, sporty (mid engined), relatively cheap, widely available

3) If the mr2 is fine, what is the best model to work from? I am biased to the newer model, but only because the car looks better in the first place. Not very relative when I'm going to strip the whole thing down. Are the older (pre 90's) models easier to work from?

Thanks in advance!
Pea

meat

USA
992 Posts
Posted - October 10 2003 :  8:44:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, there's three different chassis, with a whole host of different options.

I wish you were in the U.S., I've got a MkII MR2 chassis (glass, body, chassis) that you could HAVE if you'd come haul it away! There's no suspension, wiring or drivetrain at all...but it's a great start!

The MR2 isn't a monocoque, it's a unibody.

Yes, you can build a spaceframe based on the suspension/steering, etc. of the MR2. It just costs money.

The MR2 drivetrain is (basically) a FWD front engine setup moved amidships. There are plenty of FWD cars out there that you can do this with.

Depending on what you want to do with the car will determine which car you need. Personally, I find that the MkIs are basically free cars. In fact, I've got one (and a bunch of raw fiberglass panels pulled off of a Mercedes Benz SLK ... don't ask). BUT they aren't all that impressive in the power department, what with them using a Corolla powerplant and all.

The MkIIs are more expensive, but they're more of a car in MY opinion; more power, good looks out of the box, very sporty from the get-go.

The MkIIIs are really expensive to start with; they're still new. Nice cars, drive great, but if they were going to make a copy of a Boxster, I wish they would have made it a bit closer to the other car. Just my opinion.

If you're making a one-off, and you're not planning on building or selling kits, then get the nicest, newest MR2 you can afford. If you're planning on selling kits, then get a cheap and plentiful car that others can afford.

Hope that at least gives you some sort of direction.

Your pal,
Meat.

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pea

New Zealand
54 Posts
Posted - October 11 2003 :  01:55:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the reply meat. It does throw a lot of light on the subject.

I was thinking of going for a MKII over a MKI just because of the age and the power differences, but wasn't sure of its suitability as a donor based on its chassis.

Unibody - actually the first time I've heard of this type of chassis :( A prelim search turns up that "This type of chassis is constructed of formed sheet metal pieces all spot welded together to form a metal box which makes up the structural and functional body of the car." - is this sort of like the bonded box-shape of the lotus elise? How much of the chassis is left on the MR2 SW20 after the panels have been pulled off? Can it be stripped right down to something that can be built from?

I'm planning to build a futuristic one-off from scratch (no kit) of my own design. I'm more after the appearance, aesthetics etc than the raw power. Some concept designs I am taking styling queues from are the Seat Tango and Mitsubishi tarmac spyder. A friend has a son who builds motorcycle bodies from carbon-fiber, and is convincing me to go in that direction for the body work.

Cheers,
pea

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swoodard23


204 Posts
Posted - October 11 2003 :  09:59:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The stamped sheet metal IS the frame. The car may have front and rear subframes which are more like your traditional rail frame but you would probably be better off just building a tube frame. Here is a resource for you. http://nova-international.net/data/chassis.htm
If you have the skills to extensively modify an MR2 chassis then you probably have the ability to build any of these chassis' and you could still use the suspension pieces.

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pea

New Zealand
54 Posts
Posted - October 11 2003 :  7:31:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info. I might be better off building a tube frame and using as much of the MR2 suspension, linkages etc I can, that way I am more free to build the vehicle how I want it to look.

BTW, I followed an ad link above to eurocars (the Attack) - Very ***y. Is this car based on any particular existing car? http://www.euroworksltd.com/Attack/

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