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red beast
41 Posts |
 Posted - September 18 2003 : 11:45:19 AM
I've heard that there is a Kit for the Dodge PPG Interceptor tat was from the movie "the Wraith" anyone have any info on this? |
meat
USA
992 Posts |
Posted - October 16 2003 : 09:49:04 AM
Air Dynamics was the first company to make a replica of this car, but I don't believe they ever sold any replicas of it. If they did, it was a really low production number - so low that I don't have any records of it.The next guy to replicate the Wraith was a guy named Dale Walker, who called the car the Dalesar Wraith II. The last contact info I have for him is: Dalesar Automotive
1026 Knotts Pointe Dr.
Woodstock, GA 30188
(404)229-0232
http://members.tripod.com/mcwalkerusa/dalesar.html
dalesar@bellsouth.net Hope that helps! Your pal,
Meat. 
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Drewg
USA
41 Posts |
Posted - October 16 2003 : 12:52:31 PM
Too bad it's no longer in production, I live a few miles of this place in Woodstock. It looks good from the pictures. It will be interesting to see the new project. |
TROY
45 Posts |
Posted - March 15 2004 : 5:50:00 PM
UPDATE 01-05-2010I HAVE A CUSTOM FIBERGLASS BODY SHELL OF THE WRAITH M4S THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE WRAITH MOLD. IT CAN BE CHANGED BACK INTO THE WRAITH. CONTACT ME AT WRAITHCAR@HOTMAIL.COM |
TROY
45 Posts |
Posted - March 15 2004 : 6:00:05 PM
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supra7
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - March 17 2004 : 08:45:14 AM
About a year ago someone had a set of molds on ebay for sale for the wraith not sure what happened after that.
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Wraith Innovations
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - April 20 2004 : 12:11:32 AM
I've just finished all the planning and designs for building a Dodge M4S, Turbo Interceptor, Wraith Movie Car... Whatever you want to call it. I'm trying to keep it looking as close to the original as I can while making it a bit more user friendly for people like me that would use it as a daily driver. I'm gathering all the parts and making a scale model for reference. Construction will start soon.www.wraithinnovations.com |
THETURBOWRAITH
40 Posts |
Posted - September 09 2004 : 09:13:14 AM
HELLO HEY IF YOU LIKE: THE WRAITH--THE DODGE M4S--THE TURBO INTERCEPTOR, THEN CHECK OUT A NEW WEB SITE. WWW.THEWRAITHCAR.COM ITS VERY INTERESTING.
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pantera
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - September 09 2004 : 7:14:58 PM
Please make it MR2 based!why are repilcas so expensive?! |
pantera
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - September 10 2004 : 02:06:27 AM
Another thing when your finshed with this car is this kit going to be for beginers? Im about to trade in my 88 Sville for an 88 Fiero and i want a Lamborghini kit but i dont have the money to do so and im going to collage in the spring.why are repilcas so expensive?! |
Kael
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - September 10 2004 : 09:35:00 AM
Okay, now this is a bit odd.
in the new wraith site it says the donor car is a fiero. not very smart.
I had a love affair with this car years ago, do some research.The actual car that was used to build the wraith was a dodge daytona, in fact the movie was a large mopar commercial, it begins with a race between a (then unreleased unseen) dodge daytona turbo and a corvette and the daytona almost wins. So if you want to buld the car base it off the now (very cheap) daytona.
Hell mopar even makes a rear wheel conversion kit for the car if you want to drop a big block in it. I think the wraith was also known as the ppg pace car.
www.thedodgegarage.com/ factory_hotrods.html
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THETURBOWRAITH
40 Posts |
Posted - September 10 2004 : 10:31:01 PM
The Dodge M4S is also known as the PPG Pace car. I have seen a picture of it and it was silver and black. A nice paint design.
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pantera
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - September 12 2004 : 02:39:34 AM
Wow that was a Dodge daytona? it doesnt look like it more like an NSX to me.why are repilcas so expensive?! |
Wraith Innovations
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - March 21 2005 : 5:25:45 PM
I'd just like to say something about the "Dalesar" website that Michael Walker has up. The Yellow car on his website is not his car and he never had posession of it. He took those pictures at John Watson's place. John's company is called Air Dynamics and was the actual builder of that Yellow car... and no, John did not sell any kits. Michael Walker was scamming money from people that would be willing to pay for the kit on his site. I assumed that after he and John settled disputes with the scamming of the yellow car pictured on Dalesar's website, that Michael Walker had stopped, but I just got word that he is taking deposits on a new Original Wraith Replica. He is very knowledgable about the building of kits and sounds very trustworthy, but please don't pay a cent to him unless you see the kit in person. Most scammers will say it is a limited production kit, and a deposit is required now to be sure you get yours. The pictures of the Yellow car on his site are not of any kit he has owned or made, so if he is going to offer an original replica as it has stated for years now, please take extra steps to ensure you are paying for something that he actually has to sell.Thanks for your time. By the way, my Wraith kit construction is going very slow, but keep an eye on this site for details or just email me. http://www.wraithinnovations.com/turbointerceptor.html Also, answering questions above, the Fiero is used mostly because of its engine configuration and cost. MR2s are next on the list of cars to adapt the body to. Fieros are just cheaper to buy and the best to start out with in my opinion. I'm staying away from front engine cars (like the daytona) at the moment and sticking with mid engine cars only, but you never know what it could be fit to in the end. I'm taking extra time to design this so it is as easy to build as it can possibly be. I'm hoping to make the roof chop the only hard thing to do. Hopefully it will work.
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beisbolnut
37 Posts |
Posted - May 02 2005 : 12:49:19 AM
Checked out your website, you do good work. If need be, do you think you would be able to fashion some moldings similar to that yellow car? It just seems more road worthy. I am currently looking into a few Fiero's. I will be checking your site for updates.
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kitcarguy
535 Posts |
Posted - May 06 2005 : 7:54:47 PM
M4S (Dodge PPG Turbo Interceptor; 1981, 1984) prototype, perhaps best known for its movie role in The Wraith, is in storage at the Walter P. Chrysler museum (Derek Beland). It had a 2.2 block and five speed manual with a Cosworth 16-valve twin-cam head, dual turbos, and Bosch fuel injection, making 440 hp with 0-60 in 4.1 and a 12.9 quarter with 195 mph top speed (Road & Track figures). It was mid-engined and loosely Daytona based. There are reportedly four still around, one at PPG HQ, one at the museum.I have also recieved a Email from Walter P. Chrysler Museum and here is what they wrote. On 5/9/05, pms@daimlerchrysler.com <pms@daimlerchrysler.com> wrote:
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> There is only one M4S Dodge PPG Turbo Interceptor in existence. That car
> belongs to the Walter P. Chrysler Museum. It is not currently on display.
> You can check with the Museum in the fall, it may be on display in October.
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> The front desk phone number at the Museum is (248) 944-0436.
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azzkker
37 Posts |
Posted - May 19 2005 : 1:12:12 PM
i was searching for the ppg pace car kit and found this forum. wraithinovations, would you be willing to sell just the body, my freind is in to the fwd turbo cars and we both have experience building and welding race cars. he wants to build a tube chassis to mount this body on if the price of the body is right, other wise were building a 2.5l turbo\charged dune buggy, but having that body on there would look bitchin. also, do you have a rough cost for this body, and what parts would be required from the donor car the body is ment for to complete the body? thanks for your time.
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Wraith Innovations
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - June 09 2005 : 02:12:16 AM
Beisbolnut, Down the road, I may make more variations of this style of car. I already have a few concept drawings. If I can ever get this one done and into production, I will most likely start another and make it more "road worthy" as you said.Azzkker, I'm all about OPTIONS. I'm already finding that this body should fit on a Honda DelSol and 91-93 Mercury Capri with little to no body modifications. The MR2 would require a little. Anyway, selling just the body is no issue with me. Want to buy just the door??? No problem. Only buy what you want. Not what I say you need. I'm still not committing on a price yet. Until I get the finished product and can calculate the exact time and cost to make each kit, all I can say is that I hope to make it as affordable as I can. I'm a kit car shopper myself, so I know that a large price tag gets easily ignored. I have a list of things that will be used from the donor vehicle on the web site. http://www.wraithinnovations.com/turbointerceptor.html Feel free to email me with any questions.
www.wraithinnovations.com
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www.Replicar.ca
Canada
43 Posts |
Posted - June 24 2005 : 11:47:41 AM
 That "Wraith" car you are developing looks awesome!Far cry from the ol' Daytona for sure. Even Lee Iaccoca described the Daytona as " A boxy grocery getter we had to get to market in a hurry because the Big Two were eating us alive". I wonder which cars he meant from the Big Two, which I am assuming must have been GM and Ford? The Cavalier? I doubt that. The Mustang? It still doesn't stop or go, but it looks pretty good now. In any event, your work to date looks awesome! Ron Davies
Editor
www.Replicar.ca |
Cruiser2005
37 Posts |
Posted - July 04 2005 : 4:14:13 PM
This may or may not be the place to ask this, but is anyone aware of any toys or models they made of this car? More specifically, I'm trying to find any die cast replicas.Thanks...
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JEM MotorSports
40 Posts |
Posted - August 06 2005 : 06:56:43 AM
funny, I was simply doing a search on this vehicle & stumbled across this entire thread... I was just trying to revive my friends memories about the cool "wraith" car.A little about me... My name is Marck & I'm the owner of JEM MotorSports which is a small Los Angeles based retail shop. We predominately focus on Japanese sport compacts, mainly Hondas, rolling on 16 years of experience. I have been involved in several well known television & major film productions & commercials revolving around automobiles. (ie; gone in 60, TF&TF,those funny boost mobile commercials with old peolpe and thier cool cars & the civic nation commercial just to name a few.)
I was the actual car coordinator for the film The Fast & The Furious suppling over 300+ custom imports.
I have also had my share of consulting & hands on building project cars for major car manufactures to be debuted at the SEMA show in Vegas under my shop name JEM MotorSports. ..but enough about me, my intrest is now this wraith car. and I guess this comment is mainly directed to "Wraith Innovations" and those that could benefit from my assistance.
Aside from all of the above, I am also a rep for custom fabrication shops and performance manufactures based here in Los Angeles. I also have strong ties with producers of carbon fiber performance products such as doors,hoods,fenders,etc. What I can do is consult with my contacts and come to terms with mass producing your parts under contract if you wish.
If I could, I would like to upload a quick video clip of the shop, where I would be able to show people our manufacturing process from creating molds down to our very own custom built dupont spray booth. but I'ld need a place to host the clip from.
furthermore, you may see alot of our most recent handy work floating around which are the lambo type door hinges. They are now appliable to just about anything on 4 wheels. ..We even had them featured & talked about on an escalade in a 50 cent video. (the hinges should be keept in mind should you decide to go up with the doors.) There are no questions in my mind of the possibilities in this industry and seeing the wraith car come to life I guess would be one of those child hood fantasies become a reality... Please, let me know if I could be of some assistance to you all... thanx. ps. even though it's none related in a sense, I also just had a friend of mine pay a crap load of money to an Australian based company to reproduce for him an exact copy of the original Mad Max car... it was a 4 year project deal. Ouch... but, it should be prety intresting to see peoples faces when the new film comes out. I'm dying to ride in this thing on opening weekend. If you're thinking about it, It's probably already being made...
c-ya @ SEMA |
pantera
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - August 14 2005 : 02:25:18 AM
quote:
Beisbolnut, Down the road, I may make more variations of this style of car. I already have a few concept drawings. If I can ever get this one done and into production, I will most likely start another and make it more "road worthy" as you said.Azzkker, I'm all about OPTIONS. I'm already finding that this body should fit on a Honda DelSol and 91-93 Mercury Capri with little to no body modifications. The MR2 would require a little. Anyway, selling just the body is no issue with me. Want to buy just the door??? No problem. Only buy what you want. Not what I say you need. I'm still not committing on a price yet. Until I get the finished product and can calculate the exact time and cost to make each kit, all I can say is that I hope to make it as affordable as I can. I'm a kit car shopper myself, so I know that a large price tag gets easily ignored. I have a list of things that will be used from the donor vehicle on the web site. http://www.wraithinnovations.com/turbointerceptor.html Feel free to email me with any questions.
www.wraithinnovations.com
Fiero would be a good choice but the main reason why id rather use an MR2 from the early 90's(93-98) is one the reliablitly, after all its a toyota. And second you can modify it to make around 450hp easly just the like orginal car and plus it has turbo. Keeping the stock wheel base would be awsome because that wouldnt mess up the cars performance that much like a modified chassis would do and you could actualy race the car when its complete. So i would go with an MR2 all the way, the Fiero on the other hand has an advantage because its cheaper than an MR2 and plus a V-8swap isnt to hard. why are repilcas so expensive?! |
Big_Bad_Woulf
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - August 29 2005 : 8:24:14 PM
To Wraith Innovations. Is the body of this car still for sale? Basically I'm looking to recreate The Wraith-car. I don't have 1.5 mill so I ain't getting the orginal. But it looks like there are 1 or 2 prop cars still in existence and 1 pace car that still exist.If I can't buy one of the original cars I would be interested in a kit. But I seem to be seeing a lot of prepatory work. When it comes to imagination my feelings are...if you can think of it, it can be made!
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Big_Bad_Woulf
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - September 21 2005 : 07:01:43 AM
Ok...I'm sending out e-mails like crazy. It seems lots of folks are talking a good game until I start talking money and "can you do it"I am taking names and moving forward on my own. Seems I can't rely on anyone but myself. Wraith Innovations did an update of their site on 9/3/05. But they (he) really hasn't said anything interesting. I have found a car that was in a show in 1995 that is a replica of the Wraith. I am moving forward to contact the owner. It may be someone that's posted in other forums. On Wraithcar.com they show 3 body molds of the M4S or a similar car. I am thinking this is one of the cars I saw on a website. Also JEM Motorsports if you're for real and want in on some of what I'm doing feel free to e-mail me at badbadrex@hotmail.com I am hoping wihing the next month to find someone that can help me put this car together. Furthermore I am going to try and contact people from Kitcar magazine and see what they say. For those people who have been "mouthing the words" I say good luck to you. Some day soon you'll be seeing pics of a Wraith car that actually is in existence. Ohh by the way, I have a place in Schenectday, NY that will be fashioning me the front end for this car. At the least I'll be placing that on my '85 Turismo. My plans are the body first then work the engine.
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Wraith Innovations
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - September 29 2005 : 5:51:59 PM
Sorry for not checking this as often as I should. I've been doing other projects for the last few months. The Wraith project is not abandoned, but on hold. The design is done. I have been ready to start the full scale kit for some time now, but the place I'm at is only big enough to maybe build it, but not mold and make castings of it. So, I'm still looking for land to build a big shop. I want to let everyone know that this is not a project that will be done in a couple months. Heck, the molding process alone takes about that much time. It has taken me over two years just to come up with a design that (I think) matches the real M4S as much as I can. I've made several small sized mock ups of these designs and have eventually come to the design I have now... which I believe to be pretty darn close. I'm wrapped up in Halloween and Trans Am parts now, so when most of that is over, I'll be posting images of the 10th scale model I've been working on, but not until it is complete. Pantera, If the MR2 had a V8 option, I'd do it first. I do understand about the mods and reliability. I, myself, don't want a 4 cylinder car, so I'm using the Fiero first. Big Bad Woulf... Good luck on your search for the kit. I hope you are able to get it in a couple months, like you want. |
digideus
37 Posts |
Posted - March 27 2009 : 3:24:23 PM
SO... Whats the latest on this?
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escaperoute
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - April 21 2009 : 3:03:15 PM
quote:
SO... Whats the latest on this?
The gentleman rebuilding one of the original props from the movie is making body molds for future kit possibilites. He's not pricing or selling any pieces until the original restoration project is complete. You can see his progress at www.thewraithcar.com Some views of the molds and starter kit bodies are available at the following. http://www.thewraithcar.com/restoregal2.html For those interested. Sign up for the message boards and discuss your thoughts about the car and how the restoration is going. We're very close to finishing the original car, we'll have updates and photos of the finished project in a couple of months. Thanks!
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Wriath
