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just one more scam bought to you by your friend in the kitcar industry 360 wannabe or powerhouse...it just a diablo rebody ..thats it nothing more he sells the kits and claims that they look real

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www.powerhousesports.net

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eclipticknight wrote
just one more scam bought to you by your friend in the kitcar industry 360 wannabe or powerhouse...it just a diablo rebody ..thats it nothing more he sells the kits and claims that they look real

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Your mate in OZ

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first of all..360 claims that he is the only person to have the murci kit..there for it had to come from him..or is he lying..i would cut and paste like he does but the post is gone , so i cant..but never the less..his kit is..a diablo rebody...and thats that...it is no where exact in any way..shape or form..

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7251&item=2422296858

this was the one featured at Knott's

It is also listed on this forum
http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=2864

have alook and you will see what the real replica looks like compared to the yellow one posted earlier.

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eclipticknight
first of all..360 claims that he is the only person to have the murci kit..there for it had to come from him..or is he lying..i would cut and paste like he does but the post is gone , so i cant..but never the less..his kit is..a diablo rebody...and thats that...it is no where exact in any way..shape or form..and meat..i never ask to to do a thing for me..you have 400 plus post and never is ever any one helped about building a kit car..you do that same thing as he does..cut and paste and promote your own things...i have never once..promoted my own things..ever...you people do it every chance you get ..just to make a buck....360 is just a sissy, the fact is he can bring up my car all he wants...thats fine..i not the one that quotes "has a business thats in a falling market". the fact is he never answered the question about how he makes his money , since in hims words he does not mark up the kit, funny how i can get the same 355 for 5300 but he sells it for 6000 or more..he does not even offer prices on his site so you never know whats the price is going to be until you call him thats simple fact is hes not honest ...never has and never will...if he marks up the price..then say so..if he makes it as commission ..then say so..but dont lie about if... honestly why would you trust some one about a kit that never bluit one or not have a clue about doing one...he has to call his "companys"... anybody can to that..anybody..you want a kit made...i will call d and r and get it shipped here and the ship it out to you with a higher price tag...real simple..so why do you need some middle man to do all the work?? hes just a bunch of smoke and mirrors...and everybody who is anybody in the industry knows it...they just dont want to say anything becuase they are affraid that he will say something bad about them...well tough..i dont sell anything to the public..does that mean i cant do it?..you wish..the fact is my car was compltetly from scatch...i didnt go buy some kit and bolt it on..i made my own challenge car so i could race it...you didnt even know what a challenge car was....plexi glass it alot lighter than real glass...you should know ..half your kits have it..anyways..i have never seen one of you kits have real rims on it..never be as low as the real car or even have a good looking stance...so whats are you going to say abut that..and by the way..i thank you for pasting my ad everywhere...i got somting like 16000 hits on it and a lot of calls so thanks for getting the word out..maybe next time i just send it to you directly so you cant do the advetizeing for me..at least you wont have to lie about the car huh...anyways..my car is just that...my car..built by me..can you say that?...i think not...i could care less what you think about it or me... one more thing...dave your wrong...the first thing that was said was "The yellow Murci turnkey in the classifieds pictured in a showroom looks like a real one. Does any one agree? I thought the kits of the Murci had flat tops like the Diablo. If its a kit who makes it?" gee did you forget to read that part or what? does he ask about the kit? who needs to pull there head in huh? and why do you think i am a spoilled brat? i am 25 and a degree in electronic engineering and i put my self thru college, yea i am so spoilled??..i have a family like everybody else, i have worked hard, and honest to be able to do the things i do...i happen to like working on kits..but i dont need some lame person to tell me that im spoilled just becuse the see my picture..and assume that siince im younger that i have know idea what i am talking about...i know alot more than most of you..i dont know everything but more than most..anyways..the end the post.i would like to say i know there are mistakes in here..i just simple do care the go back and fix them and also get a life...most of you people check this page 5 times a day...i have a life thank you...kit cars are not the most important thing to me nor should it be..its simple a hobby..not something to make your life saving on nor to even supplement you income..its a hobby.. treat it as such...so saying all that...go a hea and run you mouth about how sorry i am and how i just this and i am just that...but remeber what do i have to lose about saying things? huh..nothing...360 has to defend everyhting that is said about him..everything...i can go get quote if you would like??

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Your pal,
Meat.

Well, the murci body was based on a diablo replica, its clear by looking at the winshield and doors. doers it look like a diablo? no its not even close and only people that are obsessed with the fact about the winshield and doors can't get past that to see the rest of the car. it is far from being as accurate as most of the diablo kits out there and i also wonder about the doors sealing since there is no rubber at the door sills or on the door but these are things that can easly be fixed. the problems with the accuracy of the body can also be fixed, yes you'll have to do a good bit of fiberglassing but if you can't handle that you shouldn't be trying to build lamborghini kitcars. cutting and lowering the side skirts, putting more curve in the front bumper and changing the angle of the most lower part of the front bumper, doing a little reworking on the rear and using the real winshield and door glass(you would have to rework the tops of the doors)should get the car really close to the origional. the roof needs to have more curve to it but this isn't something that many people would notice. 360Wanna_be is doing something to help buyers find those hard to get kits and also some of the ones you see everywhere. at this time there is only one murci kit that has been made public, does that mean its the only one out there? who knows but its the only one that someone can actually look at and see its for real. in time someone will come out with a more accurate murci kit but until then if you really want an accurate murci kit buy the one 360Wanna_be brokers and be the first to fix the problems and show the world your work, if your as passionate about how inaccurate the kit is then i think you have the drive to make it better. and as curt scott told me on the phone today, be careful how you post things on a public forum because there are lots of people out there just trying to lynch you, thats why he won't even visit public forums anymore.

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"...i also wonder about the doors sealing since there is no rubber at the door sills or on the door..."

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after reading meats post i had to go back ane look at the pivs of the car, for the life of me i can't figure how anyone could run right into the indise of the car, sigh! everyone can see the pics that robert stuart is posting on ari's board of how you can change a diablo into a murci kit but for the price triangle g is selling the kit for it would be well worth it to buy the kit and change any features that you're not comfortable with. the old d&r kits has the same problem with no lip for a rubber around the bottom of the door but it was as easy as making a fiberglass lip on the sill and you could run the lip so that it followed the inner part of the door perfectly to get a water tight seal so if anyone has any concerns about that i have pics of the d&r sills and how we addressed it.

www.exoticglass1.com

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I tried reading shaddoe's post, but even with my incredible vocabulary and fairly substantial knowledge of car parts and systems, for the life of me I can't remember ever seeing an "ane" a "pivs" or an "indise" on any car either real or replica that has ever been made.

Your pal,
Meat.

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ane was supposed to be and, pivs was supposed to be pics and indise was supposed to be inside. i though it was pretty clear what each word was supposed to be but i guess you're just too smart to have figured it out. again i see a post of meat having to show exactly how smart he is but adds nothing the the subject of kitcars which i find my post explained a little about working on the kit. i also see you haven't addressed the post of the errors you had on your site, again i guess you're just too smart to be told you had errors in your guide. back to kitcars.

www.exoticglass1.com

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Ah yes...that ol' "attention to detail" thing rears it's head again.

I do not see anything in your post that in any way adds anything to the subject of kit cars, I just see some bitter little man who wants to attack me because I made a point, stuck to it, and was right.

I have also seen no "post of the errors" on my site, so whatever you're saying is ... again ... adding nothing to the subject of kit cars.

Your pal,
Meat.

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I especially like Meat's advice about evaluating a company based upon its website. Yea, that's some sound advice!

Based upon that, I unfortunately cannot purchase or rely on you Meat! It seems there are six grammer errors in the first two paragraphs alone of "Selecting the right professional builder." I was going to count all of the errors in the document, but I knew I didn't have the time when I saw paragraph 4 (what were you thinking?). These were not little errors either, but basic 6th grade stuff.

So, I think I'll take your advice. I cut people alot of slack when they post in forums since I recognize the internet for what it is. I also expect that I'd be treated the same way. But I think you'll agree with me that if a builder has that many errors on his website-especially in the section where he's telling you about what to look for in a builder, he is someone to be avoided.

wow, with 14,000 post under your belt i have to wonder how much of those post had any info about kitcars and how many were about spelling errors. so again i post the facts about what i'm talking about and maybe you'll find another spelling error and turn the attantion away from the facts again. lets see, little man? the same little man you were crying about threatening you with bodily harm? i guess if you're stuck in a wheelchair or hospital bed just about anyone could harm you. i've read my post and find that i did address the fact of the murci kit being based on a diablo replica and also how some of the problems with the car could be fixed but in your post all i see is your failure to see the facts and your appetite to just **** in everyone's oatmeal every chance you get. now if you could please stick to kitcars and not why you've been banned from other sites everyone could move on. sigh

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I especially like Meat's advice about evaluating a company based upon its website. Yea, that's some sound advice!

Based upon that, I unfortunately cannot purchase or rely on you Meat! It seems there are six grammer errors in the first two paragraphs alone of "Selecting the right professional builder." I was going to count all of the errors in the document, but I knew I didn't have the time when I saw paragraph 4 (what were you thinking?). These were not little errors either, but basic 6th grade stuff.

So, I think I'll take your advice. I cut people alot of slack when they post in forums since I recognize the internet for what it is. I also expect that I'd be treated the same way. But I think you'll agree with me that if a builder has that many errors on his website-especially in the section where he's telling you about what to look for in a builder, he is someone to be avoided.

wow, with 14,000 post under your belt i have to wonder how much of those post had any info about kitcars and how many were about spelling errors. so again i post the facts about what i'm talking about and maybe you'll find another spelling error and turn the attantion away from the facts again. lets see, little man? the same little man you were crying about threatening you with bodily harm? i guess if you're stuck in a wheelchair or hospital bed just about anyone could harm you. i've read my post and find that i did address the fact of the murci kit being based on a diablo replica and also how some of the problems with the car could be fixed but in your post all i see is your failure to see the facts and your appetite to just **** in everyone's oatmeal every chance you get. now if you could please stick to kitcars and not why you've been banned from other sites everyone could move on. sigh

www.exoticglass1.com

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3 Posts Posted - July 05 2003 : 12:56:27 PM
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I especially like Meat's advice about evaluating a company based upon its website. Yea Yeah, that's some sound advice!
Based upon that, I unfortunately cannot purchase (insert preposition "from" here) or rely on you, Meat! It seems there are six grammer grammar (better choice: "grammatical") errors in the first two paragraphs alone of "Selecting The Right Professional Builder." I was going to count all of the errors in the document, but I knew I didn't have the time when I saw paragraph 4 four (what were you thinking?). These were are not little errors either, but basic 6th grade stuff.
So, I think I'll take your advice. I cut people alot a lot of slack when they post in on forums, since I recognize the internet for what it is. I also expect that I'd be treated the same way. But I think you'll agree with me that if a builder has that many errors on his website -- especially in the section where he's telling you about what to look for in a builder, -- he is someone to be avoided.
w Wow, with 14,000 posts under your belt i I have to wonder how much many of those posts had any info about kitcars kit cars and how many were about spelling errors. s So again i I post the facts about what i I'm talking about and maybe you'll find another spelling error and turn the attantion attention away from the facts again. l Lets see, little man?(incorrection punctuation; not a question) t The same little man you were crying about threatening you with bodily harm?(incorrect punctuation; not a question or a complete sentence) i I guess if you're stuck in a wheelchair or hospital bed just about anyone could harm you. i I've read my post and find that i I did address the fact of that the murci kit being is based on a d Diablo replica and also how some of the problems with the car could can be fixed, but in your post all i I see is your failure to see the facts and your appetite to just **** ("****" is not a word) in everyone's oatmeal every chance you get. n Now if you could please stick to kitcars kit cars and not why you've been banned from other sites everyone could move on. s Sigh
www.exoticass.com..."

If you're going to attempt to make an argument about spelling and grammar, it's always a good idea to have a reasonable grasp of both.

You're welcome to continue to chase me around the internet and try to attack me as much as you like. I expect no less of someone as petty and childish as you. When someone asks for a reference for your company, all I have to do is point them to every single angry little impotent post you've made in the last few days.

However, in the spirit of fair play, I am going to have to give you some pointers on how to properly attack me - someone who is obviously more knowledgeable, and definitely your intellectual superior (those big words there? they mean "I'm smarter than you are, neener, neener, neener):

• Have a point. This is pretty important. You should try it sometime.


• Know what you're talking about. I cannot stress this enough. So far, you have jumped to utterly insane conclusions, incorrectly interpreted pretty much every sentence that contains a vowel in it (vowels are the letters a, e, i, o, u and occasionally y), and intentionally misinterpreted, mislead, or flat out made things up in an attempt to make yourself not look quite as foolish as you do.


• Make your point (which implies that you eventually do get one), and then move on. That is always the mark of a good debater. I am I fairly good debater, and can make my point in one single post. You seem to have to make mass postings in the hope that no one will notice that you really haven't said anything, or made any point at all...making a mass of posts does not make you a good debater, it makes you a mass-debator.


• Learn to spell and properly build sentences - especially if the sentence is supposed to be your point or a sarcastic comment. Until you can do that, you can't effectively make any point - let alone create a smart or clever sarcastic play on words (see "mass-debater" above for an example. A badly spelled or poorly worded sentence ... okay, a bunch of badly spelled and poorly worded sentences have been your Achille's Heel from the get go.


• Don't write angry. I cannot stress this enough. Every post in which you have floundered and failed with in your attacks on me (which means, pretty much, every post you've made thus far) has been filled with vitriolic stupidity. If my posts make you that angry, then you have a serious issue and should seek professional help. I'd recommend you seek professional help anyway, as you have a serious Napoleon complex that probably requires some type of therapy or medication.


• Don't imitate others. I understand that you're obviously envious of me by your continued attempts to get my attention. And I realize that you're just now taking your first little baby steps at flaming others by practicing on me. However, until you master spelling and grammar, trying to copy the rapier-like wit and reparte of someone like me really just falls flat. I know, it's not what you want to hear; you want to be just like me. But when I write something stunningly brilliant (which is pretty much everything I write), it's stunningly brilliant once. The magic only works once; when you try it, it's like someone telling a really funny joke, and then you trying to retell it and explain what the joke meant right afterwards to a room full of people who heard the joke the first time and understood it the first time. Baby steps, shaddoe, baby steps. You can't run until you learn how to crawl.

Now, that's all I'm going to give you for now. If you continue to have problems with your angry little postings, you might just want to not make the ineffectual and empty post. If you need more help, feel free to ask!

Your pal,
Meat.

P.S. When you jump from thread to thread attacking me it doesn't make me look bad, it makes you look bad. Just so you know...

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what? i said what? did you hear me? damn, you do have serious health problems don't you? i'm not sure where your attack on deleteall ended and started on me or are you trying to suggest again that he and myself are one in the same? do you wake up every 10 minutes to check if you're being watched? you seem very paraniod! i would go back and count all the post from the different forums which are discussing this little experiment but you'd just say that all the post were by me. damn, you and i must be the only people on the net because i haven't seen a single post backing you up. you continue side stepping the issues and keep bringing up bad grammer like if it makes you a better person, damn get a frickin life kid! you know, the conversation i had with curt about lynch mobs seemed to describe you to a tee! curt didn't even realize he was describing his very own friend! you still haven't added anything constructive to the kitcar industry except for your little guide which you can't seem to follow anyway. if you think i'll just go away because you seem only determined to scare customers away from me which seems to be doing just the opposite if you read all the post then you're just wrong. i can be here everyday correcting you on which you think you know about lamborghini kitcars, i feel i have the obligation to expose your errors so that customers can make the correct decisions. from now on (when you actually answer someone's question constructively) i'll be right there to correct you on your errors, maybe with me right ther you may learn something other than computer grammer and add something to the industry. DON'T SIT DOWN, I'M NOT THROUGH WITH YOU YET!

www.exoticglass1.com

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Meat I have always respected you and your advice, shaddoe I have only recently seen you around but I like what I see so far. That is all except that I am starting to get extremly annoyed by all this bunch of B.S. lil war going on between the both of you its like a childish battel of wits. Im not trying to say who is right or wrong or who started the B.S. because who really cares. But I read these post everyday if I can and lately all I can see is this crap you two have going. I cant really see why you two would sink so low as to whine to each other over and over as if the rest of anyone on here cares about it. I mean you two are acting like the Noobs and 12 year olds we are always cracking on and should act restectable like you usualy are. This is a kitcar site so can we now please, pretty please, PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP AND U CAN POP IT, stop this and get back to having you two as some of our helpful and respected contacts. OH, & please do fogave me 4 my por chzey gramer, i dew ty my behst.

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You need to stop attacking people, because all you do is make yourself look worse. 360 and meat are both important to the industry. They have alot of experience (almost 40 years between them) and are both willing to share it with people. So if you don't like it, there are plenty of other sites you can go to.

I am so sick of all this bitching and whinging. This is a Kit Car site, not Fight Club, so treat it that way. If people want to continue bitching at each other, then do it somewhere else, and only come back when they have grown up and got out of their system!!

I do hope that this is the end of this, and we can get on with talking about Kit Cars.

Your mate in OZ

Dave

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For God sake people, can we please cool it and get on with the topic at hand.
eclipticknight I didn't call you a spoilt brat because I saw your picture, and certainly not because of your age!! No, I called you one because you are acting like a 2 year old. Don't go sprouting off about how hard done by you are, because there is always someone who is worse off than you are. And it is obvious that you don't know as much as you say you do, because of the information you have provided (or lack of).

You need to stop attacking people, because all you do is make yourself look worse. 360 and meat are both important to the industry. They have alot of experience (almost 40 years between them) and are both willing to share it with people. So if you don't like it, there are plenty of other sites you can go to.

I am so sick of all this bitching and whinging. This is a Kit Car site, not Fight Club, so treat it that way. If people want to continue bitching at each other, then do it somewhere else, and only come back when they have grown up and got out of their system!!

I do hope that this is the end of this, and we can get on with talking about Kit Cars.

Your mate in OZ

Dave

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So...you're saying that "I know you are, but what am I?" would probably be an inappropriate choice of words for a response to you now?

Your pal,
Meat.

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meat wrote: Oh my lord...you have got to be kidding. You make some of wacky shaddoe's posts here seem almost lucid. And why are you dragging me into this?
this was his second post of this thread and as you can see came before any of mine. so who started what? also, in the other discussion you would copy and paste post of other people and put a mark through their name and put mine, i guess thats not suggesting that they are me? are you really that stupid or just too damn smart for your own good that you can't remember one day from the last? its obvious what you're trying to do here but i don't care!

www.exoticass.com

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• You started it. By comparison, the post by eclipticknight did make any post that you had made up to that point in time seem almost lucid. You have since eclipsed eclipticknight for a lack of lucidity, becoming downright irrational and incomprehensible at times. What I wrote was as complimentary a comment as you did - at that time - deserve. Now, based on your subsequent postings, I would not have elevated your posts to the level I did with that comment. So you did start it, and you continued it - contributing absolutely nothing to topic except more of your nonsensical vitriol.


• I never copied and pasted anything.


• You guess incorrectly. You should consider giving up the whole 'guessing' thing, as you've been wrong every single time you've guessed anything. Just a helpful suggestion, take it any way you want to...


• If it is obvious, and you don't care, then I'm willing to bet money that you do not know what I'm doing (I don't 'try' ... I 'do'). Once again, that guessing thing is biting you on the @ss again.

Your pal,
Meat.

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